Intergalactic Summit

There is no 'chafing' or 'political shift.'

This is the conclusion of the Tribal assembly started nearly a year ago who's purpose was to define how the Minmatar Republic would be governed. And it shows just how completely ignorant most of the nonsense that gets spouted about the Republic is. Well here you have it, the Republic has created itself and not as a dictator ruled puppet government as everyone seemed to think it was but as a near mirror of the Minmatar Empire, a government ruled by the Tribes reunited.

This is a glorious day for the Republic, the Tribes, and all Matari.

I never said the Sanmatar was being a dictator. The Republic should be run the way the people want it run, and a government that is closer to their existing tribal structure would suit them better. I agree with what's going on. A monolithic society can seek a governing style that suits them all the best.

As for a big "F U" to the Federation, the Federation put itself in a place to deserve it. I don't know where you get the notion that I expect something wrong to come of this. The more factions seeking their own governance in the world the better. If a day comes where all space is under one system of rule, then every bastard and his brother will work day and night to co-opt and corrupt it.



Edit: ah I see that was a reply to someone else. Forgive me I was up late last night and had too much of that homemade stuff from Intaki that my cousin Zeke makes with hydraulic fluid and oxidized tritanium still has me seeing double. We got so drunk I had to pull Zeke off the fedo.

I would say that you've somehow conflated dictatorial government with invincible government, they never are. I'd say the Amarrian Empire is the closest fit to a dictatorial system of government, and no one would say that the power and will of the Empress is unlimited, even in our space. That's just not how the universe works. Simply because Shakor has no immediate way to fight back against the Tribal Council doesn't mean he has no desire to or wouldn't make it happen if he had the resources. Or won't in the future, I would imagine; these things have a tendency to draw out.

As far as Shakor goes, it's fairly obvious that the Tribes felt he had far too much authority. Indeed, the article itself says critics within the Republic were calling his reign dictatorial. But, just as Heth could be removed by the combined efforts of the CEP, the tribal chiefs decided to remove his fangs. It seems fairly uncontroversial to say that he made some decisions on his own authority that wouldn't be agreed upon by the Tribal Council. Apparently, they'd had enough and thought it would be better to remove his hand from government.

Time will tell if that proves to be successful. One thing I don't see in that story is Shakor's reaction to the news. Perhaps we will know in a few days?

I would agree, but only due to the present reformation of political power in the Minmatar Republic that I believe better represents the will of the Minmatar people and forms an effective distribution of power within the Republic to preserve both the cultural heritage of the Minmatar and ensure that Tribal and ethnic pluralism is maintained within the borders of the Republic through the Tribal Assembly.

I retract my comment in question due to overarching political developments and congratulate the Seven Tribes of Matar in their wisdom to abandon the corruption and cultural anathema that liberal democracy represents for all peoples who truly value their ethnic and cultural heritage.

Perhaps our perspectives are different. I personally don't take politics at face value, so I have every reason to believe he didn't debate his own political castration as well as you might believe. Maybe he did and I've simply become a bit cynical as it pertains to more fluid forms of government, but it really doesn't have much to do with Shakor himself. That opinion simply comes from my understanding of human behavior. The Tribal Council wouldn't have united on such an issue at this moment if it didn't have anything to do with Shakor personally, and I simply don't believe Shakor would kindly shrug away any platform his position really gives him and simply become a rubber-stamping bureaucrat for the Tribal Council.

As I said, perhaps I've simply become cynical. It seems that a lot of elected government leaders have tendencies to get elected with every intention of doing their jobs within the confines of their position, then spend all their time in office stretching out those limitations as best they can. I suppose you can say that also happens in the Amarrian government, power holders always seem to jostle and jockey for position, never content with their position and lot in life.

I suppose that's why, in the end, I support the decision for tribal autonomy. Popular government has a bad tendency to get bogged down in that populism. At least tribal leaders will be able to do what is right for their tribes, no matter if it is unpopular, rather than having one man have to play to popular opinion. There's nothing worse for good governance than giving someone the unlimited capacity to do the wrong thing for the right reason, save perhaps if that person manufactures the reasons those things are done.

I suppose it is possible, I was not privy to the deliberations of the Chiefs.

But for me, a man who keeps his word should be treated as a man that keeps his word. Never mention the difficulties he may have had for they are his own.

But I am content with difference of opinion.

You really must get better at understanding that there is no 'one-size-fits-all' governmental system, James. Federal Democracy didn't work for the Caldari, it doesn't work for the Matari, it wouldn't work for the Amarrians.

One of the benefits of being Culturally Isolationist, is that I don't expect my culture's answers to work for jaijii.

Let's get it over with and have Mentas and Shakor fight it out cage match style.

Among my people, differences of opinion aren't such a bad thing. I may think you're wrong, but to be honest, I really hope you're right. Even if I am right, there really isn't any pleasure in being right about something bad.

So, here's hoping I've underestimated the depth of my cynicism, or at least man's ability to rise above the situation.

I think it's more telling that, despite what everyone thinks of Shakor, good or ill, nearly everyone agrees that this is the best way forward for the Matari. It isn't often so many people agree on something of such large proportions.

At least I've yet to hear more than a voice or two of polite opposition. It just seems like it's easier to deal with the Matari on a less politically vague level. A large, populist government simply didn't work well to represent them to the rest of the cluster. If there's anything that kept Shakor from becoming the next Heth, it's probably that the Matari don't always tend to close ranks. A Matari associate of mine once told me, "If everyone stands shoulder to shoulder, and you smell ****, somebody has to turn around and see who it was that **** it."

Funny, until a few days ago everyone was comparing him to Heth. Now he is powerless?

I think you need to read up on the position of Sanmatar.