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Petition to Ban Isobox/Vec, bots and other similar program

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Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#261 - 2014-01-01 22:06:49 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Rosewalker wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Well, the broadcasting system seems like it would be handy if you'd otherwise be repeating the same thing (like emptying your cargohold of ore)


And that is an example of how people could argue that ISBoxer violates Section 6A3 of the EULA.

giving newbies billions also violates some other part, i remember someone trying to get the whole cfc banned when a newbie got broadcasted about in all-all and got handed like 10 billion or something


I heard a story about a newbie who got hit hard because someone who was buying from an RMTer handed the newbie a bunch of tainted ISK. Same guy?

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#262 - 2014-01-01 22:59:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerf Burger
Odithia wrote:

Also please keep banning the jita spammers, they bring nothing to the game.


That would cost CCP money to police. We will say it is part of the games "harsh environment" instead. That way they can attract the sociopath demographic and save money at the same time. Win win.
Jessica Danikov
Network Danikov
#263 - 2014-01-01 23:34:46 UTC
I think you're right about the belt replenishment being after DT being wrong, but not because of bot'ers.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#264 - 2014-01-02 00:35:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Necromendes wrote:
Affected players:

1) New Players
2) Players without isobox/Vec
3)Players of different time zone unable to mine after DT since ore and ice are empty within hours after DT
4) Full high sec time miners

New players don't really mine ice — the skill requirements to make it work effectively are too high.
Players without isboxer/vec are no more affected than those who do use those programs — an empty belt or anomaly is an empty belt or anomaly, and the supposed problem here is that the belts become empty.
These multibox fleets are full time miners, so the same applies here: an empty belt/anomaly is an empty belt/anomaly.

That only leaves the TZ difference (assuming it's even accurate that every belt in highsec runs out so quickly…). Well, that's pretty much to be expected from something that is intentionally designed to be a limited resource: they're meant to run out every day.

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These mining bots or whatever they wish to consider themselves who never pay physical cash but plex all their accounts, there are players who pay and are affected.
…and removing these active accounts means other players who pay are affected. It also means CCP earns less money, since PLEXed accounts are a better (if riskier) income source than a standard subscriptions.

already call it, belts DO NOT empty, hell, ive been around as alte as 3 hours before downtime, and there are STILL ice belts alive out in the 0.5-0.6 areas. but oh wait, 10-20 jumps from jita/amarr is too much to ask OP to do, huh?

also on that note, why would you mine ice? if you NEED the ice to fuel towers, its more time-efficient to just run lvl 4's and then buy the fuel, and if your making isk, your better finding a system with alot of belts and cherry-picking ore (but only jerks do that last one, almost as bad as people who leave 5-10m^3 left in the asteroid because running it an extra half-second would give them seizures)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#265 - 2014-01-02 00:37:22 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
almost as bad as people who leave 5-10m^3 left in the asteroid because running it an extra half-second would give them seizures)

Half a second huh...

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#266 - 2014-01-02 00:44:35 UTC
I use ISBoxer, to run SB's not to make Isk. My only thoughts on it are you should not be able to modify the UI the way you can with it.

I think it should simply be allowed to be used to broadcast mouse clicks.

Example:

Blackscreen

Not really something the standard client allows a standard subscriber to do imo.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#267 - 2014-01-02 00:54:46 UTC
Nerf Burger wrote:
Odithia wrote:

Also please keep banning the jita spammers, they bring nothing to the game.


That would cost CCP money to police. We will say it is part of the games "harsh environment" instead. That way they can attract the sociopath demographic and save money at the same time. Win win.

CCP do ban the bot spammers as they identify them. They did a huge clean up about a month ago now. But the problem is the bots require no training. So can simply spoof MAC address & IP and make a new account every time.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#268 - 2014-01-02 02:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
As botting as such is already forbidden by the EULA (part 6. Conduct), starting a petition to ban (perceived) botting programs is a bit redundant.
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