Warfare & Tactics

Hello


I am a FW pilot of Amarr. Lately there have been minmatar FW pilots who wait at the undock of the Amarr home system station and pop any Amarr characters that undock.

Initially the method was to just keep warping around outrunning faction police while popping players with a destroyer that undock. Allow me to be blunt and say that this is incredibly stupid. May I ask if this is the intent of the FW Dev team? I find it hard to believe that logically a Minmatar Faction Warfare player that just be allowed to fly around in the Amarr Factions' home system, a system which is 1.0 security and meant to be the captial of the Amarr empire. It does not make any sense whatsoever from a Roleplaying, Faction Warfare, game development or common sense perspective.

I can provide the players name if required. You can easily see that many many kills of this person is on the Amarr system undock.

Most people while undocking are already dealing with game/server lag. Today these same Minmatar FW players upped their manipulation of FW by having an Orca sit there with destroyers ready and a battleship, TFI, waitng on the undock. There were also mutiple ships launching fireworks creating even more lag.


Edit: The TFI has been use for several days now in several 1.0 systems without loss. I don't see how anyone can defend this as not being a problem, and that it does not need to be fixed.


Please do something about this and fix it for all the factions. Its really really atrociously bad gameplay.

We can use mechanics in place already.

1) Perhaps CONCORD can come to an agreement that Faction Warfare pilots are not allowed in HighSec as they present a threat to security of the populace and disrupt trade with their attacks? And make it just like permanent criminal status once you are in a ship (or board a ship in space in HS) and have the usual penalties apply for running away from Concord?

2) FW pilots could just be prevented from using the enemy empires warp gates. If you are my enemy, why would I let you use my gate? However I am not in favour of this second option but from a Roleplaying perspective it does make sense. I only mention this option as I do not see how we can get CONCORD to spawn in time to stop a destroyer popping a frig.


Please fix this ASAP. It is rewarding certain players who are abusing the system of a IMHO badly designed mechanic.

Thank you!

It is easy enough to avoid, and easy to counter. Make an undock bookmark so you can just insta-warp off from the station before the invuln timer wears off. If you're worried about lag, turn down your graphics before undocking.

And if you want to get vengeance, get a fast ship with tackle (or tanky ship). Or if they're quick at warping, use a cov ops ship so you can cloak up to them and then tackle. Navy NPCs will do the rest.

And as said above, you can just use a different toon for shopping.

There are problems with FW, but this isn't one of them. It's standard station camping games that happens in any war scenario, not unique to FW, and just as avoidable.

Not a bad mechanic,

There is also roleplay reason, militia was formed because empire navies did not have enough forces to protect everything.

So now you signed in militia to help those navies to defend and now you ask navies to help you. Seems that easiest solution is to quit militia, you faction does not need you.

The way these players that I mention are doing it does not make any sense whatsoever and the lengths that are gone to that I pointed out show clearly the lengths that they are going too with the Orca and the fireworks to deliberately cause lag.


Sorry but this is not good game play. If you and the others in this forum can show us with reasoned arguments supporting your point, please go ahead...

The way it is today, by joining FW you dedicate exclusively your character to FW and renounce to any other hi-sec activity.

You are part of the militia!

It is also your job to kill the WT's camping your trade hub. The navies have a hard time as it is stretched across the empire.

so grab your ships and a few mates and make their life hell while they camp your hub station.

In other words.

Grow a pair and engage!

No the bottom of the barrel for FW priorities are those players that want to be part of an NPC corporation and enjoy 0% tax while they run missions in their Navy Raven in Highsec.

Now if you are legit and looking to use FW for pvp you need to do two things:

1-Kiss highsec goodbye and create a trading-hauler alt. Start slow with T1 haulers then move on up with him/her to frieghters. You will be able to afford it (all the hauling ships you need) and him/her (the alt) if you embrace fw and start showering in lp like you should be doing.

2-Start getting used to the concept of living in lowsec.



As opposed to now where nothing in FW impacts the markets right?

Welcome to FW. Adapt or be the next one to be in it for a few hours then decide it's not for you.

High sec? Blegh..

I've been in FW (and Eve itself) since the beginning.
Who are you again?

Your "advise" is cute. It's also repetitive and has brought nothing to the discussion those above you haven't already said.

Repeating an opinion doesn't equivocate consensus, and "use an alt" is no excuse for crap game mechanics.

There has been no feature or CCP dev comment in the history of ever to suggest that high sec police should be able to be shaken by a pilot never to spawn again.


Articulate your argument all you want. You're defending a broken mechanic and trying to sell it as some HTFU feature. You aren't witty nor insightful, just wrong.

Wrong wrong wrong.