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A way to improve heavy drones and making them more distinct!
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Stridsflygplan
Deliverance.
Arrival.
#1 - 2014-01-01 07:10:23 UTC
Sentry drones have 400m signature resolution just like large guns and are a battleship sized weapon system. Heavy drones have 125m signature resolution just like medium guns and are a medium weapon system. But they still have 25 Mbit/s of bandwidth and take 25m3.

If heavy drones instead had 20 Mbit/s of bandwidth and take 20m3 it would make it a lot easier on balancing and making ships intended for heavy drones more distinct from sentry ships. A 100Mbit/s ship would only be able to field 4 sentries but still 5 heavy drones. This would make it easier to find a right spot between the Myrmidon, Gila, Ishtar and Stratios without making some of them OP. It will also buff heavy drones slightly against smartbombs when you can carry more of them in your bay.

This change wont solve drone assist but at least create a gap between the drone weapons system sizes.
Secret Squirrell
Allied Press Intergalactic
#2 - 2014-01-01 07:24:34 UTC
It seems to me the immobility of sentries does a lot to balance them. With sentries, you need to either remain stationary, go back and get your drones, or abandon them when you move to a new grid. Sentries also run into serious tracking issues at very short range.
Stridsflygplan
Deliverance.
Arrival.
#3 - 2014-01-01 07:30:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Stridsflygplan
Secret Squirrell wrote:
It seems to me the immobility of sentries does a lot to balance them. With sentries, you need to either remain stationary, go back and get your drones, or abandon them when you move to a new grid. Sentries also run into serious tracking issues at very short range.


You are missing the point here. If a medium sized ship can field a full flight of heavy drones it could also right now have a full flight of sentry drones which in the Myrmidon and Stratios case would make them to OP. This is a solution to that problem. 125Mbit/s ships will still be able to field 5 heavy drones if they have too.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#4 - 2014-01-01 08:47:57 UTC
But 5 heavy drones have more raw DPS than sentries. They are brawl variant of battleship-size drone weapon platform while sentries are long range.

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#5 - 2014-01-01 09:02:17 UTC
I think heavies do ok. If anything drone problems are more racial than anything. Eg who uses amarr drones that aren't the curator?
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#6 - 2014-01-01 14:35:26 UTC
i think the dps difference is an issue which would be better solved by nerfing sentry dps... mainly talking gardes and bouncers

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Meyr
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2014-01-01 15:56:35 UTC
I'm pretty confident that CCP wil get around to looking at drones SOON (tm)! (PUHLEEEZE do something about Amarr Drones! Even Amarr ships refuse to use them!)

As in, after they finish the ship balancing. That said, I like the idea of heavy drones using less bandwidth than sentries. It would provide a nice DPS bump to brawling ships while keeping sniper/kiting fits as they currently are.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-01-01 16:14:16 UTC
Heavy drones need there optimal range increased a lot, they have an optimal range of 1k which means they have to get within 1k of any ship they are trying to engage before they will attack.

If there optimal range was in the area of 12k the would engage much earlier.

And as a not all drone orbit range is 1km no matter what the optimal range is.

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