EVE General Discussion

I find POS's to be very limited and overly complicated. I wanted to be a pos gunner once. The skills are stupid and the pos still may not have a chance. Like I said before we need new content, this is dry.

Usually, when people open a thread asking CCP to change something they have been saying they will do since time began I tell them to get in line. Except in this instance, I think POSes really are at the front of the line.

I know that CCP are saying they want to replace POSes entirely with a new system, which these new mobile structures are the start off. Paint me a sceptic but I can't see these structures even vaguely approaching the functionality of a POS any time in the near or distant future.

Something worth ranting about for a change on GD :P Even if it has to be completely redesigned and takes a year or two, anything would be better than the eye-gouging mechanics currently in place. I think the most annoying thing is the apparent disdain CCP has for this topic.

Been a while since I had to do this, but I believe you need to manually select the line via the S&I interface > right click the line > assign access via, i think restriction masks(?). I'm not sure if you need to be in space to do it. It's worth numbering or alphebetising the labs sequentially for ease before you start. You can either select the lab and change the access mask for all types (ME/PE) or select type ME through the interface then run through the labs and do them all at once, followed by PE. If you are assigning an ISK value for instal job/research per hour be careful the ISK value has been assigned - or you may find as I did a pocket of labs with no ISK assigned. After a year, woops. Best way to check this is take a break, then relog an alt within the same corp with director level roles and manually check each line is correct. You don't need to assign roles to members within an alliance btw, provided the restrictions are set to alliance use*. If you are still struggling or need any further help drop me a mail and I'll get online and try talk you through it.

I tore all of my POS down and unsubbed for 6 months after five years of POS headaches and two running a large research alliance. Defending them is one thing, and something you accept, prepare for and have to be around to monitor. Being organised with fuel is another. But settup and reconfig is pure torture. I wouldn't subject paid employees (even if I detested them) to such a crap system, so I'm really not sure why it exists in a game supposedly played for fun. Until at the least a commitment is made by CCP to amend this, I wont be touching POS again. Which is a shame as I actually enjoyed some elements, and ran it as a low key community service rather than an ISK venture; ie nominal fees offset by revenue made from copying/invention. This really needs a look as shared POS are an interesting way in highsec of drawing solo players into a more interractive environment, and something which arguably should be encouraged and facilitated. That's not even touching on other POS users, god help alliance level logistics guys or anyone in a wormhole.

* Actually I should rephrase that. You can't set roles at alliance level, you can only make the labs available and visible. Another thing to check as a user is that you have your S&I setting actually showing alliance level labs, it's somewhere on the interface near the middle I think.

I don't think anyone thinks they'll be great.

The real problems is that this code includes corp hangers in stations and locked down assets that don't really -belong- to an individual so the actual roll out of a replacement system would be unbelievably tedious and would probably continue to bite CCP for a year after it was done.

Even a simple presumption like an asset screwup in migrating the database to the new system can't necessarily be resolved by "give it to a director" or any simple policy other than a "perfect" migration.

Why "start job" implies "global" stop job permission beats me.

I think the POS code must be a P.O.S. When ever they seem to come close to making useful changes they always seem to make a 180 and come up with 10 reasons not to do it.

Well they did give us a few small useful changes, but a real access control list sure would be nice (among many other things)