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I don't understand why people are complaining about this, it's not like it's impossible to kill offgrid boosters unless they are in a pos, in which case it's a matter of the residents of a system having a slight advantage, which is fine.

Limiting boosting to ongrid will make managing fleet hierachy a nightmare with the current game mechanics, as you will lose bonusses (potentially for the entire fleet) whenever a commander of some sort dies or is forced to leave grid for some reason, and it'll also screw up if you have to split your fleet up to fight in several places at once.

The people who think fitting command t3s with buffer and weapons is a good idea are just plain wrong. It will be useless and outperformed by a drake, and also only have 1 link, and be overpriced (noone would ever use that subsystem on a t3 again). Commandships, however, are meant to be on the field - I wouldn't mind if those were buffed in order to be doing the job better than offgrid t3s . Maybe switch the bonusses so the commandships give a bigger bonus that T3s. Or make some kind of mechanic that enhances Command bonusses for a command ships if they are on grid, so it'll have the role intended.

Yet more lazy excuses and 'can't be bothered' arguments.

If they don't bring a booster, then isn't that simply bad planning? Bring a booster and compete, simple.
Also, everyone has the ability to gain the same advantage with T2 links.

It will be a nightmare and it is a completely unnecessary change.

Irrelevant.

This bad idea says otherwise.

You and I just disagree on whether Eve should require people to multibox alts if they want to pvp.

Thats what all this comes down to.

The way this has been going:

A:Off-grid gangboosters are bad! They can't be hurt! Put them on grid.

B: Yes they can, just scan them down! Leave them alone.

A: But the sig is too small! You need mad-1337 skillz to scan them!

B: HTFU


Why not just make ganglinks increase sig/decrease res (make them easier to scan down), but keep them off grid, and then everyone only a little unhappy...

Obviously hasn't read a single post in this thread...

Which is fine. If they are on grid with you.

A Falcon affords the same benefit -- but it has to be on grid with you. Any recon for that matter. But they all have to be on grid with you.

Yeah...this is a pretty stupid post...especially since the "lazy" people are those in an invicible gang link ship not participating in the fight.

Yes let's go to all the trouble of scanning down a ship which has either already left it's position and is warping around system from one safe spot to another or is sitting in a POS where he cannot be touched.

You were born with a brain...try using it.

Not all falcons pilots are alts. If people want to try to dual box several ships while they are on grid they can go ahead. Some can do it, but many will just hand out easy kills for people who are focused on one character.

Dual boxing 2 battleships on a combat grid may not be that hard if you are are in a blob but if you are in a tough small gang fight its pretty hard. But again go ahead and do that if you want. I have no problem with people bringing many ships *on grid*.

Tracking disrupter pilgrim to whore killmails? Go ahead. It will be on grid and therefore you will have to manage it much closer than a t3 booster.

As far as logistics I will agree those mechanics need looking at as well. But at least they show up on grid.

One important difference is at least you can learn the people/corps who are always going to bring the falcon, or the logi in on grid. So you can get burned once but then you know. The next time you can know what they are going to do and prepare for it.

You likely won't even know about the t3 booster alt, and even if you did figure it out, there is nothing you can do about it - other than start multiboxing alts yourself.

I will admit that I like the extra layer of complexity that booster ships can provide.

What if they said boosters basically provide a mechanical means to what a crew could provide. So you could buy crew members for your ship according to the different bonuses links give. The minmatar crew would give the bonuses of the skirmish warfare links a different crew member would be required for each bonus, and you could only have that type of crew working together. You don't need to have the whole crew though just for the bonuses you want.

Also since the crew members provide the bonus that you otherwise get from the boosters you can't add them together.

This way people like me and others who hate the idea of dragging an alt around everywhere could simply by crew members which provide the same bonuses.

The crew members would of course cost isk. I suppose you could set up academies or something on planets through pi in order to train them to different levels.

You could keep your t3 alts as long as others who don't want alts can still compete.

Edit: crew members would be destroyed or drop just like other modules in your ship

You people do realize that majority of people that do use t3 gang links operate in small gangs. All your proposal does is promotes blobs and makes solo/small gang pvp even less viable.