EVE General Discussion

And this my friend is the very essence of sci-fi and gaming. I've got no problem with people coming here for a fight. If we have a good team of hub zero members it will be time to get busy and collect intel on our enemies then devise a way to destroy them. I don't know about you but I find this entertaining.

In response to your earlier comment about the market, anyone is free to come and put stuff on the market. I would view this as helping to move the hub forward.

You want to really mix things up: let those who want to grind in NPC null do so but whatever PVP oriented players would manage to put together, don't just use them for a kind of security force.

Use them to make incursions into SOV, especially of any renter groups that try to go hunting in your AO. This will shut them down. At best they might go crying to whatever alliance they are renting from, and become more trouble than they are worth. It would be more feasible for them to just PVP and grind in their own rented system and not try to play Mr PVP on your expense.

My observations of your last endeavors tell me that being strictly defensive makes attacking you very cheap. Some renters or roamer types in a target environment being the hunter at will and on their terms means that you will always have more, and for each it's only a matter of time before they get better. No pressure coming back lets that happen. Return the pressure and they hunter becoming the hunted is going to either really challenge them and they'll try harder ( a real gamesman and PVPer) or they'll fear their KB stats and go somewhere else. Those from SOV systems, renters mainly, wanting to take a break from the grind and go hunting should pay for their insolence. It's easy to make it very very hard to pay the rent. Return the favors from those people and they won't trouble you for long.

In due time, you may make the hub just as attractive to REAL PVP players as it would be to the fakers who want ganks. And the real PVPers will be hunting the posers. If you can accomplish that, you can reach your goal. If the impression, or even the result, is "carebears trying to make it like highsec", then you only get the worst of the worst looking for easy pickings.

That's my .02 ISK.

I could not work out what you just said from what you had typed before, but now I do, you were in the area that we are in before, got you.

NRDS, NBSI, people make a lot of fuss about this, but at the end of the day its definitions of threat and how you respond to it that matters.

I hope we will get numbers, but it will take time.

I like you :)

Do you fancy coming back to stain for an epic adventure? It will be a blast. People with charisma are urgently needed here. You can be the chief morale officer.

What we want to do is bring people who have spent their time in hisec out into 0.0 on their terms, working as a community in certain areas to operate, most notably logistics, market and intel. We also want to develop a PvP group within this community that will be able to take on various people in the area and of course those who want to get in the way of this.

There are lots of sites here, belt ratting is great in terms of developing faction, hauler and officer spawns and the area we have selected while having people here is off the beaten track so to speak.

So people who want to try this can just leave a Jump Clone here with the required assets, we set you blue among the group, you can come here as a solo pilot, a corp or even an alliance, doesn't matter.

We will assist with logistics and help you.

I've read and rethought this thread in light of recent experiences in Barleguet, where Brave Newbies have essentially turned a LS system (not even dead end LS) into HS through sheer numbers and coordination. There's also a large economy out there...'cause well...a lot of ships die, so I could completely see the existence of a NS system with similar characteristics.

I'm pleased to tell you things are going well here. We have a handful of active guys doing their bit and it's great that we have been able to trust each other.

We have started off with a bit of belt ratting and we were able to clear lots in a short space of time. I'm going to build some industrials so we are in a good position to transport any hauler spawns we find.

We are looking for more cool guys to come and join our ratting team, please review this ratting guide as it gives an indication of how profitable we will be. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Belt_rat_spawns

We're generally looking for cool guys, I think this is a great place for bitter vets and pioneers because your voice will be heard down here and there will be nobody trying to force you to do anything you don't want to. We are mostly mature players here with myself being 35. We mean business so don't hesitate to contact us if you want to chat.

This is very cool I tell you, today we had a few guys ratting in system, Dracvlad was providing intel and we got lots done. It was a great vibe and I can't wait to link up with the guys again and do more.

Hub Zero: the main port town of the nation of Outer Heaven
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Outer_Heaven

Earlier on in this thread I was asked about how Hub Zero will be implemented and sustained, My answer was very general and I said that I would be prepared to discuss these issues in a more private forum. This has now changed and after speaking with Dracvlad and getting his approval I would like to lay out everything right here on this very forum.

Over the next few weeks the information I am going to post here could change the dynamics of how you play Eve, It will inspire many pilots to become independent, brave, and daring.

Like many of us I've been dreaming about Eve Online since I was playing - = Elite = - back in the 1980s on my older brothers computer, I was so amazed at the concept and thought it would be great if I could play with other players around the world. I also love sci-fi and plan on writing a story one day. The great thing about Eve online is that we can create a story, we have a universe that we can manipulate to a certain degree.

So, over the next few weeks I will be posting the business plan for setting up in Stain. I will say that this will be aimed at newer players that have a basic understanding of eve. The reason for this is that I fear that many existing players have been manipulated into thinking an area like Stain is impossible to live in. Newer players maybe more liberated in their way of thinking and open to giving something a try. This venture is still open to experienced players who may want to pass on knowledge to the next generation of eve players.

I really hope there are lots of you tuned in to this thread. This is explosive and could potentially slow down the growth of alliances due to newer pilots choosing a more independent path in their Eve experience.

I will go into great detail on many topics such as;

- The New BSWF (Be Safe While Flying) policy. An alternative to NBSI and NRDS?
- Risk vs Reward
- PVE
- Getting to know your enemy
- PVP and Fleet Tactics
- Trust and Teamwork
- Market and Economy
- The Hub Zero Business Plan
- A new players guide to 0.0

As you can see there's lots here, so please bear with me. I will get it posted ASAP so we can have a great adventure.

Regards,

Aaron - Hub Zero Caretaker

Hello Aaron, been sort of following your previous attempt and it is rather amusing to see this new attempt. Not too sure what is your ultimate aim but I give you credit for your determination. Good luck in your current endeavor.