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Hardcore mode.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#81 - 2013-12-29 10:43:48 UTC
Anatoly Vsevolod wrote:

We must restart the game at some time, it has been running since 2003 and it's not fair for actual new players.


You know for new players they COULD add new systems just for them every year that eventually link up to the rest of the New Eden. Could be fun.

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Julius Priscus
#82 - 2013-12-29 11:06:08 UTC
Maliceth Crimson wrote:
Anyone think Eve Online is too easy ?

How about a Hardecore mode whereby if you die your character gets wiped and you start again from 900k sp or w/e it is you start at.



so one will be able to buy sp with plex ??
Sid Crash
#83 - 2013-12-29 13:06:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Sid Crash
Logical 101 wrote:
Careby wrote:
It's the honor system. If you are pod killed, you must biomass your char.

Look, no joking around here. You want hardcore?

CCP to implement "Highlander" system.

Kill someone... absorb their SP and ISK.

Death also results in permaban.

And in the end, there will be only one.


This sounds glorious.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#84 - 2013-12-29 13:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Maliceth Crimson wrote:
Anyone think Eve Online is too easy ?

How about a Hardecore mode whereby if you die your character gets wiped and you start again from 900k sp or w/e it is you start at.


You can always biomass yourself.

Sid Crash wrote:
Logical 101 wrote:
Careby wrote:
It's the honor system. If you are pod killed, you must biomass your char.

Look, no joking around here. You want hardcore?

CCP to implement "Highlander" system.

Kill someone... absorb their SP and ISK.

Death also results in permaban.

And in the end, there will be only one.


This sounds glorious.


And there will be only one player playing in the end. What an endgame. Lol
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2013-12-29 13:42:04 UTC
Sid Crash wrote:
Logical 101 wrote:
Careby wrote:
It's the honor system. If you are pod killed, you must biomass your char.

Look, no joking around here. You want hardcore?

CCP to implement "Highlander" system.

Kill someone... absorb their SP and ISK.

Death also results in permaban.

And in the end, there will be only one.


This sounds glorious.



Actually sounds a bit like Caprica as well.
ZynnLee Akkori
Perkone
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-12-29 15:05:14 UTC
Ummm.... you only start with about 55,000 SP, not 900,000
Proddy Scun
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-12-29 16:23:45 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
I think the idea has merit.



Sure the idea has merit...right after CCP fixes that big stack of bugs that makes getting podded more likely.

Can we start with the 1-3 seconds that explosion locks out all screen based UI control?

Where attackers have legal keys or options to lock and shoot pods during that time -- I have always thought that binding warp to locations to keys constituted an illegal macro. Meaning podding is pretty automatic if they got fast lock and warp disrupt.


Shocked But I assume the lure of HARDCORE is x10 training speed. Twisted
Edward Perry
Signs of Life
#88 - 2013-12-30 14:32:29 UTC
Are your nuts!

This is the worst idea in the world! With training to take years to get in to some of the ships you would limit the person to frigates maybe destroyers. You could not accelerate training or isk payout enough to do that.

You would be eliminating one of the greatest separator between this game and WOW. You need to invest time in your character. Plus it is what keeps people coming back year after year.

I hope this idea die's a horrible death and CCP Fozzy gets slapped on the head for it.


Stridermot
Squadron of the Damned
#89 - 2013-12-30 19:27:54 UTC
In almost 10 years with two accounts I have earned a few million sp . This proposal would have me unable to fly even a TII frigate let alone TII BS or capitals if I died. How long do you think I would keep subscribing if this happened ?
One can only suppose CCP Fozzy is trolling. Surely no-one employed by CCP could be this stupid - oh wait!!
Lunatic Fridge
Elder Signage
#90 - 2014-01-01 18:47:02 UTC
How about making it opt in?
Maybe having the switch being choosing to kill a pod?
Your choice, either don't pod people or risk your skill points.
Maybe also affecting every character on the account?
So no gank alts unless you want to risk your main.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2014-01-01 19:52:04 UTC
There is an EVE Hardcore mode.

We call it NRDS.

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HagNasty
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2014-01-01 20:42:48 UTC
Why not have an opt in mode that lets you convert a character or create a new "Hardcore Mode" character. As an intensive. Hardcore characters can have +15% to all their base resists or something like that essentially making them harder to kill. Or, there could be hardcore only implants (since cpp already has that mechanic in place) Maybe, they have a skill queue for hardcore characters that trains faster. Lots could be done with this.
SpaceSaft
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#93 - 2014-01-01 21:27:50 UTC
Ok my 2 cents on this

Isn't there a "natural" limit how many SP a new clone can inherit anyway?

Create a new category for players who own and need such a clone. There is no reason to let a perfectly good frozen and burnt capsuleer corpse go to waste! Harvest for SP! Or skill levels! Or make it a "super end game" thing where you can only siphon SP if you are over that SP limit as well! Introduce a tracker for those that shows randomly one other person of those meeting the criteria and you have yourself a brand new eltist hunting mechanic! I'd really love to see some of the SP-gods battle it out.
45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#94 - 2014-01-01 23:09:28 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
I think the idea has merit.



Looks like CCP Fozzie had too much to drink another beer to go down the hatch P

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CA MasterSergeant Chaos
Joint Special Operations Investment Bank
#95 - 2014-01-01 23:13:58 UTC
I can't believe my eyes on how many experienced players run so scared of Hardcore. Truly yellow streaks down their backs when there is a possibility to lose so much and risk it all. Speaks allot about their true character.

All that "no risk" cloning allows them to keep their fake inflated stature like they really accomplished something other than played EVE longer and remembered to keep their skill training up to date. I guess never really losing when you die in EVE allows for the weak and meek to inherit the Universe.

What have you created today.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#96 - 2014-01-01 23:29:24 UTC
CA MasterSergeant Chaos wrote:
I can't believe my eyes on how many experienced players run so scared of Hardcore. Truly yellow streaks down their backs when there is a possibility to lose so much and risk it all. Speaks allot about their true character.

All that "no risk" cloning allows them to keep their fake inflated stature like they really accomplished something other than played EVE longer and remembered to keep their skill training up to date. I guess never really losing when you die in EVE allows for the weak and meek to inherit the Universe.

What have you created today.



Problem with that is that Capsuleers are supposed to be immortal. Immortality is supposed to remove the fear of perma-death, which in turn encourages risk taking etc. If we have perma-death in eve the only people willing to risk anything will be the one day clone grade alphas's out there who be created and rolled for a quick gank mission and that's it.

Eve is risky enough as it when all we lose is production of assets/isk or territory as appropriate. I would however support perma-death or hardcore mode for free to play pilots with no PLEX meaning that if they die without an active sub or plex they are gone forever but most people operating under these conditions would probably be station traders who never undock.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

IlIIlIIIlllIlIllIIIIll
Doomheim
#97 - 2014-01-01 23:54:10 UTC
This is not 'eve online hardcore', this is 'fregate online' and it's a bad idea.

I can't imagine my old vet 140m sp char beeing reset to 1M ^^
Not because i dont like risk, but because i spend 7years for it.

I can't imagine either, a noob playing a month to have this so cool cruiser, beeing kill at his first visit in low sec sending back to his station and not be able to fly his cruiser again. And after skilling 6month for a BC, same thing ? I don't think people gonna stay long if it's like that.

And serioulsy, CCP Fozzie how do you even beging to start it's may be a potential good idea to discuss ? :facepalm:
I / We really want you to give your point of view in more details please.

The only thing that has 'merit' in this is the fact that obviously at a point in game the lost of one ship is not as revelant at your first 50 lost.
Maybe this idea can lead to a creative discussion on how can we make a shiplost more revelant for any player. But i don't think reseting the SP is a good idea.
maCH'EttE
Perkone
Caldari State
#98 - 2014-01-02 00:04:25 UTC
Maliceth Crimson wrote:
Anyone think Eve Online is too easy ?

How about a Hardecore mode whereby if you die your character gets wiped and you start again from 900k sp or w/e it is you start at.

you are retarted sir.
Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#99 - 2014-01-02 02:35:23 UTC
Sid Crash wrote:
Logical 101 wrote:
Careby wrote:
It's the honor system. If you are pod killed, you must biomass your char.

Look, no joking around here. You want hardcore?

CCP to implement "Highlander" system.

Kill someone... absorb their SP and ISK.

Death also results in permaban.

And in the end, there will be only one.


This sounds glorious.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2014-01-02 05:36:49 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
There is an EVE Hardcore mode.

We call it NRDS.

That's not EVE hardcore mode.
That's "oh my god we ran out of standings members have to do it now" mode.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)