EVE General Discussion

official answer: NO
unofficial - the money for the development has to come from somewhere and guess which game earns ccp the most $$$

I already digested that and previous statements and came up with this:



Something has taken around 8 million dollars in additional development expenses since 2011, and that money has come from EVE, and it's up to you to figure wether the latest EVE expansions look like they took a lot of additional money and man-hours.

You can check that as the relation between Game Revenue vs Comprehensive Income vs. Development Expense.

but WiS done properly would be great and meaningful.

how hard could it be (considering there is code for the vampire whatever as well) o_O

yea i'd rather have WiS

This. And it's plain to see in the post above by Ishtanchuk...



The important thing to look at here is total comprehensive income. In fact, even that's not very good, there's a big gap in the data here where total profits are left out. Total profits for the company the year ending the launch of DUST 514 were a lot lower in 2012. DUST was developed out of CCP's profits, not EVE's R&D costs.

Additionally, there are different teams working on both games. So you see, nothing has been taken from EVE. In other words, even if DUST didn't exist, EVE would still be going in the same direction.

A lot of people seem to be confused about the latest expansions, claiming they lack content and whatnot. This is simply not true. Can you not see past the end of your own nose? The content that has been released, slowly, carefully, not rushed and nothing grand promised so as not to cause another Incarna, is going somewhere quite clear. It might not seem like much, but it is all game-changing content. One only needs to peruse the forums for ten minutes after a new expansion to see the epic tear threads complaining about changes made, like the massive one about Mobile Depots that went off about two weeks ago.

Every expansion of late had introduced game-changing content. The thing about this game though is that I wouldn't even be complaining if there were no free expansions. None. Not one. Because as an EVE player, I have the opportunity to create my own content. To use an analogy I once read, EVE gives you a guitar and lets you make your own music. If it's a music box that plays you a pretty song that you want, go play WOW.

But the crux of the matter is that the expansions we've seen lately would have been mostly the same, based on EVE's developmental history, even if DUST did not exist. You can blame DUST all you want for your problems in EVE. I understand, I really do, it's not that great a game yet. I've spent a lot of time on it and play at least 2 hours a week, and I can say straight up, in all honesty, it's not that great. But it's important to remember the potential it has, because once upon a time, EVE was a much lesser entity than it is today as well.

DUST will become great, or it will fall by the wayside. Either way, if you think CCP are going to let EVE fall with it, the game that launched their success and maintains it, then you don't know as much about CCP as you think you do.

There is another bottom line to consider. All of the expansions are free.

Who the **** complains about free stuff? Seriously. Go live in Somalia for a week and learn how to put things in perspective.

Yes old Ambulation project. CCP got greedy and started this Carbon engine project and then didn't get WiS done. I wish they would have finished station walking first with old engine and then started Carbon engine.

I wish I could donate PLEXes to WiS development.

I consider all NEX store income tied to WiS project. So how much money that is currently I don't know.

Sentamon is right with his Dust 514 comment. We can't even manufacture Dust 514 items or transport mercenaries in space.

This is a good post.

And now imagine DUST as a computer game, MMO style like Star Wars Galaxies used to be. With planets, player build cities etc. And imagine a combined account so your pod pilot could walk these planets and you having 2 skills in training. 1 ground related and 1 spaceship related. CCP has made a great game in EVE, but this wasted potential will forever be left as the potential they didnt use. One can only hope it comes one day.

So your saying that if they weren't spending it on other things they would be putting directly into the pockets of their directors etc? You do realise how daft that sounds right? A good company reinvests as much of it's money as it can. CCP make some terrible business and marketing decisions but the notion that if they weren't running 5 different projects that they would just pocket the rest is straight up stupid.

It's not just Dust you realise? There's Valkyrie, WoD as well as the mobile apps Unifex is project managing.

If they were not spending money on those projects they would almost certainly be trying to push Eve's subscriber base higher and faster via more content, more advertising, better servers, etc etc. Unless businesses are constantly improving, they fail. No business sets it's targets to achieve what they achieved last year. The fact still remains that if Dust isn't pulling it's weight then Eve is pulling the financial weight of 5 projects on it's own.