Player Features and Ideas Discussion

^^ This.

The Capsule is the cockpit... it's just a FAR more efficient one compared to a "traditional" cockpit (can we talk about vaginas now? Too many people are getting worked up over pits full of throbbing members).

How often do we need to repeat that you are a capsuleer and swim in a capsule in your ship? This is not X. If at all, a cockpitish thing should look like the overlays in the Rubicon trailer and the new Eve intro. A real cockpit makes absolutely no sense in EVE where you control your vessel via direct brain connection.

Everything is possible within a dream. That open capsule just adds a bit of realism to your delusions.
But there are some moments that support my theory: it doesnt matter how far from the dock you are or what you are wearing atm - you can undock on a seconds notice no matter the distance or attire complexity. It makes sense if you are already in capsule and CQ is just a virtual reality. Matrix EvE is real, yup.

You accuse me of trolling, when it's obvious you do not know what a cockpit is. The telemetry you see from the camera drone is just that an audio/visual feed piped into your senses via the pod interface. It's not a cockpit. I have repeatedly said that I support the lore and like being in a pod covered in goo.

A pod is not and can never be described as a cockpit, cockpits exist on fighter bombers you can even see the pilot when you zoom in close to them as he sits beneath the cockpit canopy. Ship's have bridges and capsuleer compatible ships have a pod gantry in place of the bridge that does all of the interfacing you need.

A remote camera view as described in the lore is clearly superior to any cockpit and does not qualify as a cockpit view on account of the fact that you can only have a 'cockpit view' if you are viewing something from the 'cockpit' which you are clearly not on account of the remote camera coming online when you undock, ergo there is no such thing as a cockpit view in eve...

Indeed if there was the OP wouldn't have suggested having one and I like others in this thread wouldn't have to explain how extremely limiting and debilitating a cockpit view would be to a capsuleer and tactically a step backwards. It would be like choosing to travel by bicycle when you've been used to a high Speed Train.

I actually quite like this point of view, whilst not supported by the lore or only lightly supported it does kind of make sense as capsuleers have been known to project images of themselves to provoke and intimidate non capsuleers.

http://www.eveonline.com/creations/concept-art/capsuleer-projected-image/

You know precisely what I meant, and I have no need to justify my position beyond what I have already said. Which is more or less the OP is asking for the game to be first person when it already is.

I never said or assumed any of that. I just said that you were knit-picking over the wrong things by arguing complete, and useless, semantics.

Okay, I didn't mean to spark some sort of inflamed debate, here. Overall, I think CCP should consider that "Gaming" is constantly evolving. It was only a few decades ago that our best chance at experiencing space travel were 8-bit text-only games. I think the concept of all-inclusive avatar experiences is really cool, but I think CCP has an opportunity here to really push the concept to the next level. What if instead of caving in to the demands of *less mature* gamers, they pushed the concept to a place that improved not only EVE but gaming in general. CCP is no stranger to pushing the limits.

The lore behind capsulers is my favorite aspect of EVE's universe. I truly think immortal humans will exist one day, and it will shake the very foundations of human civilization. I really like how CCP is slowly progressing their development in New Eden, and I hope one day something finally gives and the Empires are all at war with player-designed factions (years from now). Imagine if some of EVE's largest corporations had factions of their own and new players could seek out NPC agents for missions under that faction? After reading some of CCP's recent interviews, I have no doubt this is likely in the future of EVE.

With that in mind, capturing the experience of being a capsuler/immortal is going to be the most progressive aspect of this game. Yes, currently we are flying ships manned by a single immortal who sees everything through a digital remapping of the surroundings, but what if that changed - for the better?

Adding NON-MANDATORY features that focus on your Avatar, while leaving all of the story up to you (no main missions or campaign, please), would be fantastic. Sure, I might not always use a Cockpit View, but I would absolutely love it to be there, and I think with an increase in polygons on the older ship models as well as a few side-projects, it could be a reality. I would even go so far as saying I'd love to wake up in some "clone factory" after being podded.

On a side note, I am playing Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag, and one aspect that I really love about that game is how you are always following your character Edward Kenway. Whether you're walking through the town or captaining your ship, you are viewing things from his perspective. It even has a side experience when you exit the Animus, which drives home that Kenway is truly just a simulation. I am not saying that EVE should turn into an AC game, but I do wish EVE had more of a "I am a person flying a ship" feel versus "I am a player playing a game and this is my ship." I think a cockpit view is a very modest step toward this, and, who knows, maybe one day we'll be able to walk through JITA and visit Corporation stores or more...

except the jove ARE still in pods, or close to it, the pod protects the non-responsive human body during operation, unless a Jove grew himself a second brain, his body is basically on life-support while hes in a ship, since his brain and body are disconnected to read the "ship" as the new body.

And even assuming you grew said second brain (and where would that go, anyways, your ass cheeks?), you wouldnt be drinking jack squat on your fake-bridge, since every bump into an asteroid or hit from a weapon would spill that mocha all over your pants.

The jove are going the same way as the sleepers, next you'll hear that they are all spending time in their virtual realities as they are too depressed to live in new eden. Most probably only exist as virtual personalities without a body at all, in which case they'd automate their ships and have slave ai to operate them, hence no need for a pod, the ones that absolutely need to go outside occasionally probably just grow a disposable clone when they need it and destroy it when they are done with it.