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Safe place to store plex - just lost mine

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#21 - 2013-12-28 13:37:31 UTC
Gabriel Nurillah wrote:
ill look into eve tutors, JPol your not Italian by any chance , i met an italian women who looked like your avatar once Cool


I'm going to make an educated guess that he is Dutch (based on forum sig). It could be that he's an Italian chick impersonating a Dutch guy though. This is EVE. Trust nobody.Big smile

On topic, the only place in EVE where there is any real protection against having your ship blown up is in the "rookie systems" where you actually start when you create your character. If this happened there, you can petition it, and there is a slim possibility that you might get reimbursed. The whole point of this game is that you are supposed to be a bit nervous when you undock, and that higher value activities should carry greater risks. Moving expensive cargoes in squishy ships is always going to attract attention - player pirates can surreptitiously scan your cargo and set up ambushes for you along your route.

Moving PLEX is a pointless risk. It can be redeemed or sold from any station. If you are buying PLEX to sell it on the market, it is best to travel to the station where you prefer to do business before you purchase the PLEX.

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Tarn Wolfen
Tiger's Bite
#22 - 2013-12-28 16:24:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarn Wolfen
I think PLEX is probably the single worst thing to try to transport, even for a very experienced player. Just one PLEX is presently worth about 615,000,000 isk.

Several already told you that, and one told you what to do, but here is what you also need to know in more detail:

When you buy PLEX online, you will need to REDEEM it. You do that by logging in, hitting escape to bring up another screen, and then clicking the "redeem items" option at the bottom of that screen towards the middle. From the left bottom it is the next to last tab to click, going from left to right along the bottom line.

Here is what I do, and what I would recommend for you.

1. Buy the PLEX
2. Log in on the character you wish to use it with
3. If you are going to redeem it for playing time or dual or triple training, simply redeem it and immediately use it in the station you happen to be in.
4. If you are going to instead sell it to raise isk, first fly to the trade hub you wish to use (it does not have to be a trade hub, but generally they will get you the most isk the quickest), THEN REDEEM it/them.
5. Sell it/them then and there, or set up a sell order - I use sell orders myself.

DO NOT TRAVEL WITH PLEX IN YOUR SHIP - EVEN VETERAN PLAYERS ARE NOT BEING SMART TO DO THAT

THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE TO TRAVEL WITH IT - JUST PLAN YOUR REDEMPTION OF THE PLEX!!!
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#23 - 2013-12-28 17:18:20 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
[quote=Gabriel Nurillah] If you are buying PLEX to sell it on the market, it is best to travel to the station where you prefer to do business before you purchase the PLEX.

Well, there is one reason to actually move a PLEX.

If you buy them at one station and want to sell them at some other station.

But that's the only reason to ever undock with PLEX in cargo.

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Steiner Schulze
Doomheim
#24 - 2013-12-28 18:23:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Steiner Schulze
Lors Dornick wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
[quote=Gabriel Nurillah] If you are buying PLEX to sell it on the market, it is best to travel to the station where you prefer to do business before you purchase the PLEX.

Well, there is one reason to actually move a PLEX.

If you buy them at one station and want to sell them at some other station.

But that's the only reason to ever undock with PLEX in cargo.




can't you just un-redeem it and redeem it again at the destination?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-12-28 18:39:51 UTC
Steiner Schulze wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
[quote=Gabriel Nurillah] If you are buying PLEX to sell it on the market, it is best to travel to the station where you prefer to do business before you purchase the PLEX.

Well, there is one reason to actually move a PLEX.

If you buy them at one station and want to sell them at some other station.

But that's the only reason to ever undock with PLEX in cargo.


can't you just un-redeem it and redeem it again at the destination?


No. Once the PLEX is an item in-game if you reverse-redeem then redeem it again it will go back to the station it was originally at.
Rosira
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-12-29 13:14:29 UTC
Gabriel Nurillah wrote:
Wow , that was close, just found my items thanks for all the help. Is their a safe way to transport items?

do we have a post office or something Big smile

Nothing in Eve is truly safe but Cloaky Transports are up there for being close.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#27 - 2013-12-29 23:14:36 UTC
Gabriel Nurillah wrote:
I literally started yesterday and was figuring out what the buttons still do. Is this the item hanger because that is where i had everything?


Feel free to eve mail me or request a private chat in game and I'll try and help out with the learning curve.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-12-29 23:30:19 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
[quote=Gabriel Nurillah] If you are buying PLEX to sell it on the market, it is best to travel to the station where you prefer to do business before you purchase the PLEX.

Well, there is one reason to actually move a PLEX.

If you buy them at one station and want to sell them at some other station.

But that's the only reason to ever undock with PLEX in cargo.


And if you do that, you might aswel give your ISK away to a random guy.

Or just buy them and re-sell them from a distance.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#29 - 2013-12-29 23:52:56 UTC
I don't think anyone has explained WHY not to carry PLEX, other than it makes you a target: you can apply PLEX to your account from anywhere in the universe, by opening your assets window and right-clicking on the PLEX located in you station hangars.

The only reason to move PLEX is to sell it in a different region.

The risk in moving PLEX is so extreme, that it is never a good idea to do so.
ZAKURELL0 LINDA
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2013-12-30 05:48:38 UTC
if u really really need to move a plex for trade, do it in a cloaky nullified (not necessary in HS) T3 cruiser with all but 1 low slot in warp stab......

but even that is not 100% safe, not to mention the skills u'll need to fly one

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Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#31 - 2013-12-30 11:10:18 UTC
Gabriel Nurillah wrote:
Is there a safe place to put plex, i just had my ship destroyed when i jumped into a deserted facility, sector was 0.8 so i thought it would be safe, about a minute after i got there about 15 ships fired on mine...it was almost instantaneous. Lost the cargo and the plex, so where else can i put it.


For future refrence, go to the system you want your plex in (Like Jita as its a trade hub) Then redeem your PLEX, thus removing the risk of trasporting plex in a ship.
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#32 - 2013-12-30 12:03:45 UTC
ZAKURELL0 LINDA wrote:
if u really really need to move a plex for trade, do it in a cloaky nullified (not necessary in HS) T3 cruiser with all but 1 low slot in warp stab......

but even that is not 100% safe, not to mention the skills u'll need to fly one


Personally I use full buffer and resists fit to a Drake, with all stabs in the lowslots. No-one would ever think to look in a Drake for anything valuable and they'd be daft to gank it on the off-chance.Blink

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#33 - 2013-12-30 12:54:41 UTC
Gabriel Nurillah wrote:
Wow , that was close, just found my items thanks for all the help. Is their a safe way to transport items?


Short answer: No.

Long answer: There is no safe way to transport PLEX. Put a single PLEX in a turtle-tank battleships, fly it through 1.0 and gankers will eagerly lemming away ten billion ISK worth of Catalysts trying to gank you. It's like blood and sharks.

Funny thing is, though no one seems to realize this, is that PLEX never drop.

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Yosef Brinalle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-01-01 00:05:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Yosef Brinalle
To the OP. It sounds like you are truly new like me. Things I found. It is good to run the tutorial track for a newb. You can get several free ships, ISK, and a number of free skills. Running the advanced military tutorial for evey race will get you skills in a number of important weapon systems - drone, small laser, rocket, and small projectile if memory serves. In the tutorial system the mining ship is awesome - several of the tutorial missions contain decent value asteroids. I outfit my miner with two mining lasers and a slavager and used it for cleanup after most missions. Remember that most missions are on a fairly long timer - you can run the mission in a combat configured ship, return for cleanup/mining and then turn in the mission. Also, on the advanced combat mission where you fly the explosive suiced ship? Return to it and you may find a nice cargo container the blwn up base left behind full of goodies. ALLWAYS keep your eyes open for potential loot in this game. All tutorial tracks are 10 episodes long with the exception of exploration which is 5. Exploration nets you probe scanners and an exploration frigate all with a very short investment in time.

One thing the tutorials do NOT teach. EVE is like no other game you have ever played I suspect. Except in the starter systems EVE is a viscious king of the hill world. You are always prey and you can at times chose to be predator. People will ambush you and kill you if it looks profitable to do it. Some will d it just for fun - thus the warning to NEVER fly with more than you can afford to lose. Anytime you undock know that you may die in the most horrible backstabed way. Be prepared for that, look for way to avoid that, that is the fun and challenge of EVE. If you are the personality type who gets really upset when backstabed or ambushed ths game may not be for you. On the other hand if you like the challenge of surviving as a rabbit or hunting as a fox this may be a place you like a lot.

PS. Highsec does NOT mean starter. Highsec just means that people who jump you will lose their ship for doing it. They will still do it if it looks profitable or if they are bored and just want to kill something regardless. Starter only applies to the 12 'School' systems and maybe the first systems out on their doorstep.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#35 - 2014-01-02 10:14:13 UTC
Phew, close call OP! Would have sucked to lose a PLEX on your first day. You have been warned now thanks to all these fine people, who would off course never shoot at a PLEX hauler in hisec themselves... Pirate At least you had a taste of how loss feels while you thought it was gone. This 'real loss' is what makes Eve so special, and PVP more thrilling (for the non-space-rich).
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-01-02 23:31:12 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Gabriel Nurillah wrote:
Wow , that was close, just found my items thanks for all the help. Is their a safe way to transport items?


Short answer: No.

Long answer: There is no safe way to transport PLEX. Put a single PLEX in a turtle-tank battleships, fly it through 1.0 and gankers will eagerly lemming away ten billion ISK worth of Catalysts trying to gank you. It's like blood and sharks.

Funny thing is, though no one seems to realize this, is that PLEX never drop.


Going to "break" the forum rules slightly by linking a loss I had a long time ago to proof that Katran is wrong:

https://zkillboard.com/detail/16223697/


Q.E.D. - PLEX do drop.

p.s. Laugh / Troll all you want. It's space pixels and I don't give a **** about them....

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