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Tul Breetai

Impromptu Asset Requisition

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#21 - 2013-12-28 05:17:49 UTC

Carmen Electra wrote:

Alec Halbrooka wrote:

I will be able to fly my covert ops ship in a week. I have been searching YouTube and the forums for help on surviving bubbles or gate camps in null sec. I know that I can warp while cloaked and will only be visible for 1 second after entering a system.

Is that all there us to it?

I'm hoping there are some explorers out there that could help me out.

I just posted a similar question, so maybe take my response with a grain of salt. As far as I know, a ship with a covops cloak will help in escaping a bubble, but it's not nullified like intys and some T3s. Most good gatecamps will have an inty for tackle, and a good inty pilot will be able to decloak you before warping. If you fit an MWD and pulse it a split second after engaging cloak, it will help you escape bubble.

If there is an interceptor or interdictor, align or just double-click so you burn perpendicular to the ship, cloak, then hit your prop mod. If they manage to come into decloak range they will likely be going too fast to decloak you anyways (1 second ticks, if they aren't within range when the tick cycles they won't decloak you, I have confirmed this on multiple occasions both myself and when trying to decloak hostiles.) Once you're out of the bubble, just warp to next desti.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

Bad Girl Posse 619
Ioci Bad Girl Posse Likes received: 619	#22 - 2013-12-28 10:50:08 UTC It's all blind luck. I've lost bombers to gate camps just out of fluke. The biggest nuisance won't be losing the ship though, it will be triple drag bubbles on every gate and nobody in system for the first 5 systems in. Knowing you need to navigate that to get back out, you will make it a point to lose your ship or just SD the damn thing. R.I.P. Vile Rat

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2,368
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,368	#23 - 2013-12-28 11:11:09 UTC If you gate into an insta-lock gate camp there's a 50/50 chance you die no matter your fit. Use a co-pilot scout if worried. ~ Professional Forum Alt ~

Othran

Route One

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#24 - 2013-12-28 11:25:18 UTC | Edited by: Othran

Assuming you jump into a system and a bubble is up on the gate and multiple (20+) hostiles are in point/scram range then :

1) Don't panic or you're dead. You have 60 seconds gatecloak to think about what you're going to do so use it. The longer you wait then the twitchier they become;

2) Find the planet/belt to align to which is nearest the edge of the bubble for you. Don't use celestials aligned near your out-gate as good decloakers will try to get themselves between the point you broke gatecloak and the out-gate. Belts are better than planets as you'll probably decloak on the POCO at the planet. Remember that worst-case in most systems you only have to get 8-10km before you're out of the bubble;

3) Once you pick the planet/belt then take a deep breath and hit ALIGN, then CLOAK, then MWD. Use the keyboard for the cloak/mwd "trick" - I put my cloak in F1 slot and MWD in F2 slot and use the mouse to hit align.

4) Now you will have a shitload of fast stuff heading for the position you broke gatecloak, and hopefully the good decloakers will have gone for a decloak between you and the out-gate. Keep spamming warp and and once you're in-warp to the planet/belt then drop a bookmark mid-warp. When you land then warp back to your bookmark and recloak if necessary.

That will get you past all but the best decloakers in most systems.

In the systems where all the celestials are in one direction from gate its often best to make a pair of vertical bookmarks a couple of hundred KM away from gate. That way you can pick one to warp to as you burn up/down.

In terms of avoiding bubbles - don't warp gate to gate and if you suspect there is a cloaky dictor around the gate when you hop in then do the cloak/mwd business.

To those saying "its blind luck". It isn't. There are some exceptionally good decloakers out there - the vast majority of people couldn't decloak a barn but I've run into a few people who just have decloaking nailed. If I see them on a camp then I know I'm probably going to get decloaked near the edge of the bubble, then its fastest finger first to see who gets point or warp Lol