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CCP Fozzie & Rise and the break from tradition

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Gorski Car
#61 - 2013-12-27 20:11:44 UTC
Posting in a rip in peace rlml thread.

Collect this post

Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2013-12-27 20:45:14 UTC
This is the end result of post after post after post of newer players used to homogenized gaes who demand "My toon is race X, but I like Y ships, why can't X be like Y?"

You can't have a large player base of inteligent players who understand specilization becuase there isnt enough intelligence to go around. Eventually you have to go with th lowest common denominator if you want a large player base, whcih means all races, ships, and weapons are even across the board because stupid people are too stupid to read up before they sub and learn to specialize.

Also soon will be gone will be sub-occupations, becuase stupid people don't understand specialization, must less hyper-specialiaztion.

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#63 - 2013-12-27 21:25:34 UTC
Guttripper wrote:
*remembers memories of his hybrid fitted Ferox getting laughed at by all those missile spamming Drakes long, long ago...


I was always the Ferox guy in the Drake fleet too.

Whos laughing now *******?!?!?!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-12-27 22:08:23 UTC
Posting because part of my signature is relevant. Also Caldari kinetic bonused missile boats still hit the hardest out of any missile boats, relative to size/tech level/skills/etc. of course.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#65 - 2013-12-27 22:24:40 UTC
whaaa your legion of OP drakes are of no use muhahaahahaha
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-12-27 22:33:18 UTC
Patri Andari wrote:
Giving Khanid ships damge bonus to long ranged missiles and strenghtening Minmatar ships that use missiles to do rainbow damage beyound that of Caldari may just be an issue about flavor and variance (I don't think so), but allowing both to keep more generous drone bay than Caldari is a slap in the face.

If you're snipy and you know it fly Amarr.
Want to shoot the whole big rainbow, Minmatar.
If you only want Caldari,
Then I really am so sorry,
For Gallente as a choice exceed that par.


And your sig: Frank Outlaw: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/01/10/watch-your-thoughts/

If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg

But in purple, I'm stunning!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#67 - 2013-12-27 22:49:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
It is the end of days,
CCP has lost its crazy way,
EVE is dying, or so I hear,
Tell me Devs, is that happening dear?

My character has lost its face,
My ship doesn't fit the race,
My game play crushed under heavy mace,
Tell me Devs, what is my place?

Amarr say, give our turrets back!
Caldari shout, missiles we do lack!
Gallente scream, blasters hit like sack!
Minmatar rage, we need more flak!

Fozzie and Rise, to the block!
How dare they make us flock!
Our ships smell like dirty sock!
Screw you Scottie, we can't undock!

Or so they say, if I may,
Having all races talking is no dismay,
Instead means they are all equal,
And that change is not lethal.




That puts a skid mark in my shorts I laughed so hard.


When the smoke clears is all going to be slowcats everywhere.

And domis.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#68 - 2013-12-28 00:36:27 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Guttripper wrote:
*remembers memories of his hybrid fitted Ferox getting laughed at by all those missile spamming Drakes long, long ago...


I was always the Ferox guy in the Drake fleet too.

Whos laughing now *******?!?!?!


Well, Ferox is pretty much perfect in every imaginable way. If every ship tanked the way those things do, lowsec small gang engagements would last all damn day.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-12-29 23:13:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…except, of course, that Caldari were never really the missile race — their missile ships just gained a bit of prominence early on because there were two good mission ships that both used missiles.

Oh, and just because one T2 manufacturer gets its flavour tweak doesn't mean an entire race is getting the shaft.

The tutorial ought to be adjusted then:

Advanced Combat Training wrote:
Weapon of Choice

Welcome back, {pilot}. For your next assignment, we want to teach you about the unique characteristics of Caldari missile technology. Each race has its own preferences when it comes to weapons systems and fighting styles, and understanding our own weapons and battle doctrines will be crucial to your long-term success.

We Caldari use missiles, as I'm sure you've noticed already. Missiles have a number of important advantages. We can load different missiles for different targets and adapt quickly to any situation, dealing a damage type of our own choosing. All of the other racial weaponry locks you into pretty much one type of damage or another: for example, Amarr Lasers deal EM and Thermal, Gallente hybrid railguns and blasters deal Kinetic and Thermal… but Caldari missiles can deal any kind of damage. We've even developed missiles called Auto-Targeting Missiles that can find targets without you needing a lock on to them, which is particularly useful when an enemy compromises your electronics systems.

{snip}

If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg

But in purple, I'm stunning!

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#70 - 2013-12-30 05:41:14 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
The tutorial ought to be adjusted then:

"Welcome back, {pilot}. For your next assignment, we want to teach you about the unique characteristics of Caldari missile technology.
Lol Just kidding - go train turrets or drones."

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Apocryphal Noise
Close Encounters of the EVE Kind
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2013-12-30 06:20:14 UTC
Can't believe this thread ******* exists. The current state of ship balance is better than it's been in the history of EVE. People are making successful doctrines out of every race of ships with every weapon system. Sniping Tengu's, Rokh's, Domi's Mega's, Zealots Ishtars Naga's, HAM tengu's HML tengu's, Hawks, Harpies, Inty's, Proteus, Cerb's, the list goes on.

Just a couple years ago there were maybe 3-4 viable fleet comps that everyone in nullsec flew. zzzz