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Light speed is too slow....

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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#61 - 2013-12-26 20:07:45 UTC
Cyndrogen wrote:
"Yeah we are going to have to go right to LUDICROUS speed!"

Current we use AU as a means of warping between gates, it takes such a long time to travel using AU, can we introduce Parsecs PC/sec for battleships??? It took me over an hour to travel 30 jumps. While it's fun to just watch spaceballs while clicking each gate during long travel times it really kills immersion.

How would people feel about having AU and Parsecs as a travel speed? I would pay ISK to travel faster. I would pay Aurum.


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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#62 - 2013-12-26 20:11:15 UTC
Deano McCandless wrote:
ohhhhhhh
Burning through the sky yeah
Two hundred degrees that's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit
I'm travelling at the speed of light
I wanna make a supersonic man out of you


Just want to check. You do know that supersonic means faster than sound right? More precisely, an object travels at supersonic speeds when it travels at more than mach 1, such that v>=mach 1
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#63 - 2013-12-26 20:15:15 UTC
Logan Revelore wrote:
Cyndrogen wrote:
"Yeah we are going to have to go right to LUDICROUS speed!"

Current we use AU as a means of warping between gates, it takes such a long time to travel using AU, can we introduce Parsecs PC/sec for battleships??? It took me over an hour to travel 30 jumps. While it's fun to just watch spaceballs while clicking each gate during long travel times it really kills immersion.

How would people feel about having AU and Parsecs as a travel speed? I would pay ISK to travel faster. I would pay Aurum.


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Shaden Nightwalker
Tryblium Sanguinis
#64 - 2013-12-26 20:27:41 UTC
Logan Revelore wrote:
Deano McCandless wrote:
ohhhhhhh
Burning through the sky yeah
Two hundred degrees that's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit
I'm travelling at the speed of light
I wanna make a supersonic man out of you


Just want to check. You do know that supersonic means faster than sound right? More precisely, an object travels at supersonic speeds when it travels at more than mach 1, such that v>=mach 1


And you do know those are actual famous lyrics by Queen?

That said, please educate me (seriously, I do not have a clue): what (if any) is the speed of sound in space?
Since there is no medium present to carry any waves, how could that one be calculated?
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2013-12-26 20:33:58 UTC
Light speed is too slow?
Guess i missed the memo that they slowed it down... What?

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-12-26 20:51:11 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:

How would people feel about having AU and Parsecs as a travel speed? I would pay ISK to travel faster. I would pay Aurum.



A Parsec is a UNIT OF DISTANCE, NOT SPEED or TIME. Roll

I thought this got famously cleared up in 1977. I guess not.


An Astronomical Unit [AU] is also a measurement of distance. 1 AU can also be calculated into time with the speed of light as the base of measurement as 8 light minutes.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2013-12-26 21:17:52 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
You're already moving MUCH faster than lightspeed when you warp, not to mention jumps and gates.

For reference, light takes 8 minutes and 20 seconds to travel 1 AU.
I want to be the guy who nitpicks and tells you that ships that warp aren't actually faster than light,
because there is nothing faster than light.

Electromagnetic waves inside the warp bubble have the same speed
as electromagnetic waves outside the warp bubble.

To be precise: The ship inside the warp bubble doesn't move at all.
Actually, nothing inside the warp bubble moves during warp travel.

Edit:
And to be even more precise: One could say that not even the warp bubble moves.
It changes it's relative position, yes, but not because it moves,
but because it changes space surrounding it.

To compare:
A common misunderstanding is that people say that galaxies within our real universe drift apart,
which isn't the case. It's just that the distances between galaxies increase,
because the size of the universe increases.

Mind. Blown.


End of nitpicking.

Are you saying ORE needs a faction-orca painted green so i can name it "Planet Express Ship"?
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-12-26 21:33:16 UTC
traveling too slow fix it ccp holy ****, eve is literally the worst game to play if all you have is an hour or two.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#69 - 2013-12-26 21:44:43 UTC
Minor point of information: V1489 Cygni is about 7.67 AU across. It takes light 1.06 hours for light to cross it's diameter.

...and we can bounce across a black hole in a few seconds in an interceptor...

We are really "bopping along" as my astrophysics professor would say.

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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#70 - 2013-12-26 21:48:32 UTC
Cyndrogen wrote:
"Yeah we are going to have to go right to LUDICROUS speed!"

Current we use AU as a means of warping between gates, it takes such a long time to travel using AU, can we introduce Parsecs PC/sec for battleships??? It took me over an hour to travel 30 jumps. While it's fun to just watch spaceballs while clicking each gate during long travel times it really kills immersion.

How would people feel about having AU and Parsecs as a travel speed? I would pay ISK to travel faster. I would pay Aurum.


Just to give you something to think about.Blink 1 AU/s equals roughly 500 times the speed of light, the Leopard we got for Christmas does about 10,000 times the speed of light, and that's before implants.
EVE ships are pretty speedy as it is. P
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#71 - 2013-12-26 21:52:41 UTC
Meiyang Lee wrote:
Cyndrogen wrote:
"Yeah we are going to have to go right to LUDICROUS speed!"

Current we use AU as a means of warping between gates, it takes such a long time to travel using AU, can we introduce Parsecs PC/sec for battleships??? It took me over an hour to travel 30 jumps. While it's fun to just watch spaceballs while clicking each gate during long travel times it really kills immersion.

How would people feel about having AU and Parsecs as a travel speed? I would pay ISK to travel faster. I would pay Aurum.


Just to give you something to think about.Blink 1 AU/s equals roughly 500 times the speed of light, the Leopard we got for Christmas does about 10,000 times the speed of light, and that's before implants.
EVE ships are pretty speedy as it is. P

That's fast. ...you might even say ...that's ludicrous.

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2013-12-26 22:08:36 UTC
Jill Chastot wrote:
Light speed is too slow?
Guess i missed the memo that they slowed it down... What?

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/02.18/light.html
They did it over a decade ago.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#73 - 2013-12-27 01:33:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Bischopt wrote:
You should go get Gandalf, maybe he can teleport you.



How about a ship that can be like a mage from WoW and can open portals. In WoW, when those poor helpless worthless carebears who are too risk averse to play Eve want to travel somewhere fast, they use a mage with a portal.

Opening portals from one place to another place for instant travel is just so carebearish, WoW-ish, and wrong....



Oh wait...

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2013-12-27 03:52:33 UTC
Also 1 parsec is 206265 AU.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

loco coco
#75 - 2013-12-27 07:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: loco coco
I'm not good at math and I don't feel like fixing it.

Just think, you could be flying a freighter or an Orca or something. Then it would REALLY take a lot of time to get around.

This is EvE. Stop complaining
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2013-12-27 07:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
loco coco wrote:
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20AU per second is 2000 times the speed of light.

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loco coco
#77 - 2013-12-27 07:40:52 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
loco coco wrote:
So, traveling at 20AU/s would mean you were traveling at 2,991,957,420 which is 1.75 times FASTER than the speed of light.
Actually, traveling at 20AU per hour would be 2.75 times the speed of light. 20AU per second is 2000 times the speed of light.

Fixed
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2013-12-27 08:11:44 UTC
Logan Revelore wrote:
Deano McCandless wrote:
ohhhhhhh
Burning through the sky yeah
Two hundred degrees that's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit
I'm travelling at the speed of light
I wanna make a supersonic man out of you


Just want to check. You do know that supersonic means faster than sound right? More precisely, an object travels at supersonic speeds when it travels at more than mach 1, such that v>=mach 1

If he travels at the speed of light, it does make him supersonic. Ofc it does more than that, but that's besides the point.
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
#79 - 2013-12-27 08:19:17 UTC
loco coco wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
loco coco wrote:
So, traveling at 20AU/s would mean you were traveling at 2,991,957,420 which is 1.75 times FASTER than the speed of light.
Actually, traveling at 20AU per hour would be 2.75 times the speed of light. 20AU per second is 2000 times the speed of light.

Fixed


ehm, a little bit quicker than that actually. P
I'll use rough numbers, but you'll get the idea.
1 AU = 150,000,000 kilometres.
1 c = 300,000 kilometres per second.
1 AU/s = 150,000,000 / 300,000 = 500 c
20 AU/s = 20 * 500 = 10,000 c
So a good bit quicker than you're suggesting. Blink
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#80 - 2013-12-27 08:22:09 UTC
My BS is doing just fine.