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TiDi: Only penalizes PVE pilots.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#41 - 2013-12-27 00:44:37 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:

I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,


Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick.

Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead Lol !


Logi is pretty overpowered anyway, and CCP knows it.

They just can't mess with Logi output without screwing up Incursions, and they're not prepared for the sheer level of whine that would result from that.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#42 - 2013-12-27 00:55:08 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:

I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,


Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick.

Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead Lol !


Logi is pretty overpowered anyway


So is irony

nerf insincerity tbh

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#43 - 2013-12-27 01:01:10 UTC
Vidua Arte Album wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
Vidua Arte Album wrote:
What's the minimum amount to pay for a killmail of this guy, at best in one of his expensive ships?

Talk to ACE Gunnery, the break-a-wish foundation, or the goon with 30 isoboxed catalysts.

I wager going rate for a .5 gank would be ~500 mil or less if you find a group.
(so please do it, I like the idea of hurting people for bad ideas. I did it until my ship died)

Garnoo wrote:
cant CCP simply unplug hisec so we can have a 4000 man battle in null without TiDi = problem solved :D

If that happens I cant make all those DDA 2s and wardens and DC2s you guys are chugging

Seriously keep it up, I like making money
I got enlightened about it and realize now that all I did was fall for a troll, just like you all the other zombies.

it's always a troll

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-12-27 01:36:58 UTC
even Malcanis gets baited by a Tom Gerard thread

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-12-27 01:46:22 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:

I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,


Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick.

Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead Lol !


Logi is pretty overpowered anyway, and CCP knows it.

They just can't mess with Logi output


This is what ECM and neuts is for.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#46 - 2013-12-27 02:07:43 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


This is genuinely hilarious, not because you're a whiny little mission runner with no thought or care for anything other than your ISK/hr, but because you may have inadvertently solved several problems at once:

I believe I will forward your suggestion without the narrowminded self interest - to increase ALL DPS by the TiDi factor; after all if fleets in 10% TiDi did 10x as much damage, then fights would be over faster,


Yeah and then logi would become useless because you would alpha people in one server tick.

Stop flattering your ego by insulting mission runners and go help to finish the summer minutes instead Lol !


Logi is pretty overpowered anyway, and CCP knows it.

They just can't mess with Logi output


This is what ECM and neuts is for.

because of ... falcon

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2013-12-27 03:55:18 UTC
time is relative..

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#48 - 2013-12-27 04:57:32 UTC
As a mission runner myself, I myself do not believe that all of Eve should only cater to the PVP crowd. That said, not everything needs to benefit PVE that doesn't already just because it benefits PVP. If anything, PVP has a higher priority in many respects than PVE in Eve. That's kind of the point of an MMO really, it's a game that is mainly structured around cooperative/competitive play whereby the interactivity is aimed at player-to-player interaction first with player-to-non-player interactivity secondary. PVE here in Eve is ment to support PVP playstyle, though there are already tons to PVE content that can be for many (like me) its own playstyle.

If TiDi bothers you that much, move...I know that sounds like **** answer, but people make it out to be a lot harder and complicated than it really is. There are more than 7k systems out there in known space alone, and there are undoubtedly a metric ass ton of systems without TiDi going on. You would be surprised at how many issues you might have you could solve easier and far sooner by realizing that some fixes and solutions don't require the dev's tweaking the game.

tl;dr

No. By this logic, Incursions shouldn't reduce bounty payout just because I'm not running them but an incursion is happening in the area I operate in. There are several other easier solutions to consider.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#49 - 2013-12-27 05:08:24 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
If TiDi bothers you that much, move...I know that sounds like **** answer, but people make it out to be a lot harder and complicated than it really is. There are more than 7k systems out there in known space alone

that reminds me of miners

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-12-27 06:19:54 UTC
Solution is obvious, reduce L4 mission payouts to L1 then rework TIDI so that the performance never slows in nullsec and all the slowing gets redistributed to highsec.

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ISD Alliance
#51 - 2013-12-27 06:27:48 UTC
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