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Gallente ship fits for Factional Warfare - a modest guide
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Jahbulon
Aliastra
#1 - 2013-12-26 22:49:30 UTC
For personal use I have been jotting down various Gallente ship fits for use in Factional Warfare, then decided to rustle up a guide with some of my favourite fits so that it might help others.

http://gallentemilitia.blogspot.co.uk/

I in no way claim that these are the last word in FW fits, but If you're involved in Factional Warfare for the Federation, or fly Gallente ships, you might find this moderately useful. Please do let me know if any of these can be improved or tweaked.

I'm also working on a Gallente-focused guide to FW which I'm hopeful will be put up on the site in the next week or so.
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-12-26 22:57:31 UTC
First thing i saw was.
"Turn on the MWD, approach your enemy, activate the warp scrambler and web when in range, press fire, pray."

Just... Why?...

Straight

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unread OATHS wants you. Come to the WH "Safety in eve is the greatest fallacy you will ever encounter. Once you accept this you will truely enjoy this game."
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#3 - 2013-12-26 23:26:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Your fit for Ihub bashing Talos;
http://gallentemilitia.blogspot.co.uk/p/talos.html

Dear Goodness no. Just no.


Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II / Void L

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Large Shield Extender II
Large FS-9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large FS-9 Regolith Shield Induction

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Medium Algis Hybrid Administrations Unit I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hobgoblin II x 5

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-12-26 23:27:20 UTC
Derptron is not derptron. Armor tanked instead of shield. Fail as Derptron.

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
Castnicke Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-12-27 00:31:04 UTC
This is a basic derptron. Depending on your skills you can drop the reactor control unit and put a magstab on it for some extra dps. Obviously you can use different meta versions but you get the gist:

[Atron, Derptron]
Reactor Control Unit I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control I

Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Props for giving Ant Ant credit for the kite tristan fit!

I wouldn't suggest using the Ares for solo pvp, it's just... doesn't do that very well imo. The Tanaris will do that job much better.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#6 - 2013-12-27 00:43:34 UTC
In defense of Jahbulon, he did disclaimer in this atron guide;

Quote:
Again, there are a million different combinations of advanced Derptron fittings, some favouring shields and other tank accoutrements,


High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#7 - 2013-12-27 03:13:42 UTC
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
This is a basic derptron. Depending on your skills you can drop the reactor control unit and put a magstab on it for some extra dps. Obviously you can use different meta versions but you get the gist:

[Atron, Derptron]
...
Needs Salvager in spare high slot. :D
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#8 - 2013-12-27 03:59:17 UTC
You are missing the section where Caldari ships are superior in absolutely ever facet and fashion.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#9 - 2013-12-27 11:07:42 UTC
I recommend every federation pilot use the navitas and exequror fits listed in this blog. You will survive 100% every fight because you are cap stable without any measurable sensor strength or tank whatsoever. You can send me isk now that you never have to buy new ships. You are welcome.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#10 - 2013-12-27 12:19:02 UTC
I love the need for a fitting mod on practically every ship. I have been doing it wrong all this time...

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#11 - 2013-12-27 15:02:19 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
I have been doing it wrong all this time...
Please, no more softballs guys. New Year's resolution is to cut back on trolling, and you're not helping!
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-12-27 18:55:33 UTC
Jill Chastot wrote:
First thing i saw was.
"Turn on the MWD, approach your enemy, activate the warp scrambler and web when in range, press fire, pray."

Just... Why?...

Straight


This is the correct way to fly a blaster ship. The only thing he forgot to add was "overheat guns" first. :)

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#13 - 2013-12-27 19:35:05 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Morgan Torry wrote:
I have been doing it wrong all this time...
Please, no more softballs guys. New Year's resolution is to cut back on trolling, and you're not helping!


Your new years resolution on cutting back on trolling is a troll in itself.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#14 - 2013-12-28 15:49:37 UTC
The Comet isn't T2

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Jahbulon
Aliastra
#15 - 2013-12-31 13:03:21 UTC
Thanks for your comments on this. I've made some amends to the fits today in line with some of the points made...
Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2013-12-31 19:14:18 UTC
Your enyo fits both have five guns, they can only fit 4

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-12-31 21:00:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
This is a basic derptron. Depending on your skills you can drop the reactor control unit and put a magstab on it for some extra dps. Obviously you can use different meta versions but you get the gist:

[Atron, Derptron]
Reactor Control Unit I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control I

Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Props for giving Ant Ant credit for the kite tristan fit!

I wouldn't suggest using the Ares for solo pvp, it's just... doesn't do that very well imo. The Tanaris will do that job much better.


Tbh this fit looks kinda bad to me. Whats the point here? In my eyes it looks like working fleet tackler for low skill pilots that has logi backup.. U go shield fit to release lows for dmg mods that u dont use. The whole idea of derp fit for me atleast is to fit "too big guns" or "too much dps" on expense of tank etc.. And this one cant even fit neutrons. This fit lacks both dps and big guns so its just medium extender low dps atron. Not a derptron in my books. But if u mean alot shield buffer by saying derp.. Ok then..

For example lets take my 650dps hull tanked catalyst that doesnt even have a point but still actually got some solo kills like dead space tanked comet flown by 2006 pilot against my 2010 pilot just to mention.. Thats a derp fit in my ears..

Also i do realize u can see the derp consept differently. Generally just being "stupid fit"... Anyways i do not like this fit... :D
Jahbulon
Aliastra
#18 - 2013-12-31 23:02:47 UTC
Keko Khaan wrote:
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
This is a basic derptron. Depending on your skills you can drop the reactor control unit and put a magstab on it for some extra dps. Obviously you can use different meta versions but you get the gist:

[Atron, Derptron]
Reactor Control Unit I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control I

Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Props for giving Ant Ant credit for the kite tristan fit!

I wouldn't suggest using the Ares for solo pvp, it's just... doesn't do that very well imo. The Tanaris will do that job much better.


Tbh this fit looks kinda bad to me. Whats the point here? In my eyes it looks like working fleet tackler for low skill pilots that has logi backup.. U go shield fit to release lows for dmg mods that u dont use. The whole idea of derp fit for me atleast is to fit "too big guns" or "too much dps" on expense of tank etc.. And this one cant even fit neutrons. This fit lacks both dps and big guns so its just medium extender low dps atron. Not a derptron in my books. But if u mean alot shield buffer by saying derp.. Ok then..

For example lets take my 650dps hull tanked catalyst that doesnt even have a point but still actually got some solo kills like dead space tanked comet flown by 2006 pilot against my 2010 pilot just to mention.. Thats a derp fit in my ears..

Also i do realize u can see the derp consept differently. Generally just being "stupid fit"... Anyways i do not like this fit... :D



I see what you're saying, but the Atron is an extremely tight fit in the lows - particularly when you're also trying to cook up something that's relatively cheap and usable by low skill characters.

I also have to say that I don't particularly enjoy fitting or flying the Atron. I vastly prefer the long point drone kite Tristan in the Gallente T1 frigate lineup, and generally think that the Tristan is the best overall Gallente T1 frig outside of the Comet, but it takes a lot of drone training to get the best out of it.

But having said that, you can do a fit with electrons that gets you a damage mod on board thus:

Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I / Federation Navy Antimatter S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I / Federation Navy Antimatter S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I / Federation Navy Antimatter S

Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Subordinate Screem Stablizer I

Damage Control I
Magnetic Field Stablizer I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

It costs about 2m ISK, and with skills at V gives EHP 4509, DPS 126 / 145 and still does 3700 m/s. So it is 7 DPS more than the fit I've posted here: http://gallentemilitia.blogspot.co.uk/p/atron-fits.html. The Electron / magstab fit has more DPS on paper. admittedly. It might be better in practice.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#19 - 2013-12-31 23:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Keko Khaan wrote:


Tbh this fit looks kinda bad to me. Whats the point here? In my eyes it looks like working fleet tackler for low skill pilots that has logi backup.. U go shield fit to release lows for dmg mods that u dont use. The whole idea of derp fit for me atleast is to fit "too big guns" or "too much dps" on expense of tank etc.. And this one cant even fit neutrons. This fit lacks both dps and big guns so its just medium extender low dps atron. Not a derptron in my books. But if u mean alot shield buffer by saying derp.. Ok then..

For example lets take my 650dps hull tanked catalyst that doesnt even have a point but still actually got some solo kills like dead space tanked comet flown by 2006 pilot against my 2010 pilot just to mention.. Thats a derp fit in my ears..

Also i do realize u can see the derp consept differently. Generally just being "stupid fit"... Anyways i do not like this fit... :D

It's a bad solo fit - against AB/Web/Scram opponents (it's great ships against long point, long range ships), but it hits way above its weight as a small gang ship.

http://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-new-fight.html gives a good overview of the ship's capabilities.

Edit: Also, for low skillpoint players it's usually better to go with the neutron blasters and power diagnostic unit in the lows.
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-31 23:30:46 UTC
Jahbulon wrote:
Keko Khaan wrote:
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
This is a basic derptron. Depending on your skills you can drop the reactor control unit and put a magstab on it for some extra dps. Obviously you can use different meta versions but you get the gist:

[Atron, Derptron]
Reactor Control Unit I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control I

Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer I
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Props for giving Ant Ant credit for the kite tristan fit!

I wouldn't suggest using the Ares for solo pvp, it's just... doesn't do that very well imo. The Tanaris will do that job much better.


Tbh this fit looks kinda bad to me. Whats the point here? In my eyes it looks like working fleet tackler for low skill pilots that has logi backup.. U go shield fit to release lows for dmg mods that u dont use. The whole idea of derp fit for me atleast is to fit "too big guns" or "too much dps" on expense of tank etc.. And this one cant even fit neutrons. This fit lacks both dps and big guns so its just medium extender low dps atron. Not a derptron in my books. But if u mean alot shield buffer by saying derp.. Ok then..

For example lets take my 650dps hull tanked catalyst that doesnt even have a point but still actually got some solo kills like dead space tanked comet flown by 2006 pilot against my 2010 pilot just to mention.. Thats a derp fit in my ears..

Also i do realize u can see the derp consept differently. Generally just being "stupid fit"... Anyways i do not like this fit... :D



I see what you're saying, but the Atron is an extremely tight fit in the lows - particularly when you're also trying to cook up something that's relatively cheap and usable by low skill characters.

I also have to say that I don't particularly enjoy fitting or flying the Atron. I vastly prefer the long point drone kite Tristan in the Gallente T1 frigate lineup, and generally think that the Tristan is the best overall Gallente T1 frig outside of the Comet, but it takes a lot of drone training to get the best out of it.

But having said that, you can do a fit with electrons that gets you a damage mod on board thus:

Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I / Federation Navy Antimatter S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I / Federation Navy Antimatter S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I / Federation Navy Antimatter S

Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Subordinate Screem Stablizer I

Damage Control I
Magnetic Field Stablizer I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

It costs about 2m ISK, and with skills at V gives EHP 4509, DPS 126 / 145 and still does 3700 m/s. So it is 7 DPS more than the fit I've posted here: http://gallentemilitia.blogspot.co.uk/p/atron-fits.html. The Electron / magstab fit has more DPS on paper. admittedly. It might be better in practice.


Yea im with you but.. I have flown atron myself too and in my opinion rail kiting atron is the best atron atleast in 1vs1 fights. I myself fly sometimes atron with rails, web, point or scram (depending opponent if i know it and if i have possibility to refit for it). Anyways tristan might be most op t1 frig atm. Its versatible like u can kill brawlers and kiters easy aslong ur drones can catchup... Atleast thats how my rail tristan works...
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