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Return of the Jukebox.

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Menaiya Zamayid
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2013-12-26 07:06:32 UTC
I still keep hoping to get the jukebox back. Nouvelle Rouvenor Hero still remains one of my favorite themes.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#42 - 2013-12-26 09:52:27 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
The reasons given for the removal of the jukebox do not feel justified to me.

You wanted the game to play specific music in lowsec and nullsec? Fine. But you still could have kept the jukebox and simply added sub-categories to it for further customization based on region. That would have been appreciated, actually.

In reality, you basically DID do this, you just removed OUR ability to mess with it. That seems uncool to me, and pointless.

Bring it back, thanks.


What reason? That all code in the game needs to be constantly maintained. And maintaining the jukebox, which is arguably easily replaced by a third party app, takes away resources from the internet spacehips? Sounds reasonable to me.


The same can be said about a sub-par Twitch streaming SDK which has been implemented without player demand and with the added irony that the game doesn't haves any tool that allows to watch Twitch within the game.

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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-12-26 10:02:54 UTC
Shantetha wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
You keep this up and they'll remove the Calculator!
We're keeping it, I'm always trying to convince CCP karkur to improve it.


can i ask for a ti 89 emulator as in game calculator :)


got my ti nspire right here

keep your poor man calculator out of my thread plebian

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TharOkha
0asis Group
#44 - 2013-12-26 12:24:36 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:

What reason? That all code in the game needs to be constantly maintained.


We are talking about jukebox controls for this new music system, not about bringing back old jukebox with all the code that have to be maintained. If twitch plugin can have it i think that it wouldn't be a problem to have one for new EVE music system.

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And maintaining the jukebox, which is arguably easily replaced by a third party app,


You cannot replace it with 3rd party apps. 3rd party apps lacks cool ingame feature = dynamic music..

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takes away resources from the internet spaceships?


Cool space music for cool space game always was and always will be "must have" feature.

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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#45 - 2013-12-26 13:13:28 UTC
Reintroduce the jukebox and give us a simple music creation thingie as well ;) we'll get the people to create the electronic music :)
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#46 - 2013-12-26 13:37:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
Logan Revelore wrote:
Reintroduce the jukebox and give us a simple music creation thingie as well ;) we'll get the people to create the electronic music :)

You would be better off downloading something like Caustic 3. The android version costs money, but the windows version on their website is fully free. Not a pro app really, but quite good for what it does, which is probably better than what you are asking for.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-12-26 13:56:36 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
The reasons given for the removal of the jukebox do not feel justified to me.

You wanted the game to play specific music in lowsec and nullsec? Fine. But you still could have kept the jukebox and simply added sub-categories to it for further customization based on region. That would have been appreciated, actually.

In reality, you basically DID do this, you just removed OUR ability to mess with it. That seems uncool to me, and pointless.

Bring it back, thanks.


What reason? That all code in the game needs to be constantly maintained. And maintaining the jukebox, which is arguably easily replaced by a third party app, takes away resources from the internet spacehips? Sounds reasonable to me.


The same can be said about a sub-par Twitch streaming SDK which has been implemented without player demand and with the added irony that the game doesn't haves any tool that allows to watch Twitch within the game.



Not really. I doubt there is any potential income stream CCP can get from bringing the jukebox back.
ExcalibursTemplar
CANZUK
#48 - 2013-12-26 14:19:53 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
You keep this up and they'll remove the Calculator!
We're keeping it, I'm always trying to convince CCP karkur to improve it.


How about an in game spreadsheet with us able to share files the way we share bookmarks ingame.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#49 - 2013-12-26 14:33:02 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:


Not really. I doubt there is any potential income stream CCP can get from bringing the jukebox back.

hey yeah good point... So by this reasoning, CCP should start deleting textures from some of the planets, bases and ships, lack of potential income stream. Odd, but you think some might like graphics ...and music? hah potential income streams..

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#50 - 2013-12-26 14:33:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
The reasons given for the removal of the jukebox do not feel justified to me.

You wanted the game to play specific music in lowsec and nullsec? Fine. But you still could have kept the jukebox and simply added sub-categories to it for further customization based on region. That would have been appreciated, actually.

In reality, you basically DID do this, you just removed OUR ability to mess with it. That seems uncool to me, and pointless.

Bring it back, thanks.


What reason? That all code in the game needs to be constantly maintained. And maintaining the jukebox, which is arguably easily replaced by a third party app, takes away resources from the internet spacehips? Sounds reasonable to me.


The same can be said about a sub-par Twitch streaming SDK which has been implemented without player demand and with the added irony that the game doesn't haves any tool that allows to watch Twitch within the game.

No, it really can't. They simply plugged in the module provided by Twitch, designed specifically for this purpose.

Media players, on the other hand, bring a lot of baggage along by their very nature... and are COMPLETELY REDUNDANT with software that your operating system already provides.

Also, why would you want to watch twitch within the game? Play the game, put a Twitch feed up on another screen if you need to... or alt tab if necessary.

There is nothing wrong with having basic twitch functionality at your fingertips whenever you want it. If you need the more advanced software available for it... nothing is stopping you from downloading it. The ingame client is an easy way to broadcast things you want to share with others, the full client is for broadcasting when you DON"T necessarily want to share everything with others... or are too lazy to simply make your twitch channel private.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-12-26 14:47:26 UTC
Omega Sunset wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


Not really. I doubt there is any potential income stream CCP can get from bringing the jukebox back.

hey yeah good point... So by this reasoning, CCP should start deleting textures from some of the planets, bases and ships, lack of potential income stream. Odd, but you think some might like graphics ...and music? hah potential income streams..


Wat?

Um I think you missed the point by a few thousand LY.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#52 - 2013-12-26 14:49:44 UTC
Omega Sunset wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


Not really. I doubt there is any potential income stream CCP can get from bringing the jukebox back.

hey yeah good point... So by this reasoning, CCP should start deleting textures from some of the planets, bases and ships, lack of potential income stream. Odd, but you think some might like graphics ...and music? hah potential income streams..

They have music already in game.

If they want out of game music in game a media player is built into their operating system.

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Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#53 - 2013-12-26 15:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
Ranger 1 wrote:
Omega Sunset wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


Not really. I doubt there is any potential income stream CCP can get from bringing the jukebox back.

hey yeah good point... So by this reasoning, CCP should start deleting textures from some of the planets, bases and ships, lack of potential income stream. Odd, but you think some might like graphics ...and music? hah potential income streams..

They have music already in game.

If they want out of game music in game a media player is built into their operating system.

No, there is no music, it's been turned off for months now. External players are crud to use (as I've already stated why). Not to mention the external players fight over resources that should be managed from the game client. Just like in EQ1, the player was the best part of the client, and caused less problems compared to running another demanding app.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#54 - 2013-12-26 15:51:27 UTC
Omega Sunset wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Omega Sunset wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:


Not really. I doubt there is any potential income stream CCP can get from bringing the jukebox back.

hey yeah good point... So by this reasoning, CCP should start deleting textures from some of the planets, bases and ships, lack of potential income stream. Odd, but you think some might like graphics ...and music? hah potential income streams..

They have music already in game.

If they want out of game music in game a media player is built into their operating system.

No, there is no music, it's been turned off for months now. External players are crud to use (as I've already stated why). Not to mention the external players fight over resources that should be managed from the game client. Just like in EQ1, the player was the best part of the client, and caused less problems compared to running another demanding app.

1: The music was never turned off in EVE unless you turned it off yourself. It simply now plays different songs depending on where you are and what you are doing.

2: External players are far, far superior to the buggy little simplistic player that was previously jammed into EVE.

3: Do you think that because the music player was accessible from in game that it magically never used any system resources? Smile If your system is struggling to use Winamp or Windows media player (or any one of a dozen others), you have bigger issues than this.

The only reason to complain about using the media player you ALREADY HAVE is because you are too lazy to fire it up, to alt tab, or to get a keyboard that allows you to control it from there.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#55 - 2013-12-26 15:56:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Grey Azorria wrote:
Merida DunBrogh wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
You keep this up and they'll remove the Calculator!
We're keeping it, I'm always trying to convince CCP karkur to improve it.
haha, I like how you are the hero in this post and I'm the bad guy Lol

And here I thought you were a woman! Blink

Erm... What?

FYI "bad guy" is a gender neutral term.



No it is not LolBad Girl NSFW....but I am posting from work Lol
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#56 - 2013-12-26 15:59:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Omega Sunset wrote:
external players fight over resources that should be managed from the game client.


And the in game music players sucks resources needed for fleet fights...correct?
ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#57 - 2013-12-26 18:03:06 UTC
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#58 - 2013-12-27 00:11:37 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
You keep this up and they'll remove the Calculator!
We're keeping it, I'm always trying to convince CCP karkur to improve it.
haha, I like how you are the hero in this post and I'm the bad guy Lol
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