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Whining About Gankers

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Dradius Calvantia
Wolfbane ltd
#1 - 2011-11-23 01:13:41 UTC
What is with all these suicide ganker whine threads?

Yes, there are many changes coming up in the new expansion that are going to affect the performance of a very large number of ships in the game. These changes are probably going to go a long way towards fixing some of the problems with combat in EVE caused by 18 months of stagnation. At the very least, they are going to cause the current fleet doctrines to be shaken up a bit, and people are going to rethink how they play the game.

What these changes do not make one bit of difference to, is how trivially easy it is to gank people who are being unattentive or just plain stupid in high sec. It is easy to kill you now, it will continue to be easy after the expansion. These changes may slightly alter the tactics that gankers use, but it really does not matter if they use a 50 mill isk hurricane, a 100 mill isk tempest, a 70 mill isk tornado, or a couple 1 mill isk thrashers to gank your 10 billion isk T1 hauler. It is still very profitable and very easy.

Hell, you guys are even getting your insurance pay out nerf; so please quit whining already.

TL:DR

Suicide ganking has been around since the beginning of EVE, and will continue to exist after the expansion. None of the changes to ships or insurance payouts are going to have any kind of noticeable effect on the frequency gankings.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-11-23 01:18:16 UTC
ok...................
Minister of Death
Colossus Enterprises
#3 - 2011-11-23 01:19:50 UTC
nothing to see here, OP is dumb like a rock
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#4 - 2011-11-23 01:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jojo Jackson
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Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

David Grogan
NerdHerd
#5 - 2011-11-23 01:24:53 UTC
Dradius Calvantia wrote:
What is with all these suicide ganker whine threads?

Yes, there are many changes coming up in the new expansion that are going to affect the performance of a very large number of ships in the game. These changes are probably going to go a long way towards fixing some of the problems with combat in EVE caused by 18 months of stagnation. At the very least, they are going to cause the current fleet doctrines to be shaken up a bit, and people are going to rethink how they play the game.

What these changes do not make one bit of difference to, is how trivially easy it is to gank people who are being unattentive or just plain stupid in high sec. It is easy to kill you now, it will continue to be easy after the expansion. These changes may slightly alter the tactics that gankers use, but it really does not matter if they use a 50 mill isk hurricane, a 100 mill isk tempest, a 70 mill isk tornado, or a couple 1 mill isk thrashers to gank your 10 billion isk T1 hauler. It is still very profitable and very easy.

Hell, you guys are even getting your insurance pay out nerf; so please quit whining already.

TL:DR

Suicide ganking has been around since the beginning of EVE, and will continue to exist after the expansion. None of the changes to ships or insurance payouts are going to have any kind of noticeable effect on the frequency gankings.


what ganked people are complaining about is the fact that CCP have made suicide ganking even more easier. Yet nothing has been done to help gank victims in return.

insurance nerf is not going to stop gankers especially now destroyers are getting buffed... so with a 3mil isk fitted ship u can one shot a 220mil fitted ship. that hardly seems fair.... and also there is no way for anyone flying a t1 mining barge to fit a tank let alone one that can withstand a volley from a destroyer even before the destroyer gets the buff next week.

if ganker ships get a buff ccp need to also give mining barges and exumers a hp & mid slot buff too.

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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#6 - 2011-11-23 01:27:03 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
While PvP players (or the one who want to be PvP players) tend to spam forums (same for nearly all games) ... PvE players usualy don't do it.

Maybe some PvE players noticed, that spamming forums can have an effect ;).

You know, most PvE player don't post in forums even if they outnumber PvP players by far in most games.


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Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-11-23 01:52:49 UTC
YAY OP!!
Yet another whine thread!

If there's one thing these forums need, its another whine thread.

But if there's yet another thing these forums need, its a whine thread about whine threads.

U so awesome OP!
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#8 - 2011-11-23 01:56:27 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
if ganker ships get a buff ccp need to also give mining barges and exumers a hp & mid slot buff too.


[Covetor, defens WTF??]
[empty low slot]
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Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I


180/250 CPU
36/43.75 grid

Use MEDIUM T2 shield extender result in
214/250 CPU
59.25/43.75 grid

Not able to fit a MEDIUM extender on a MEDIUM hull where people normaly fitt LARGE extender on every cruiser size hull??

Fit defens ????

BAD JOKE!

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

T' Elk
Into the Ether
Out of the Blue.
#9 - 2011-11-23 02:27:13 UTC
So in essence you are whining about the whining threads, which is by far worse than the whining threads themselves... You sir have just been nominated for the Darwin Awards.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#10 - 2011-11-23 03:33:02 UTC
People will whine because they want what they don't have.

In this case, some miners want to be able to mine afk without risk. They want to have it easy, while having gankers have it hard. But the reality is, if you mine easy, you make ganking easy.
Serene Repose
#11 - 2011-11-23 03:51:17 UTC
...we are called...to meet the challenge of a principle which, if it were to prevail, would be fatal to any civilised order.... Such a principle, stripped of all disguise, is surely the mere primitive doctrine that might is right; and if this principle were established...freedom...would be in danger.

But far more than this...people would be kept in the bondage of fear, and all hopes of settled peace and of the security of justice and liberty...would be ended. This is the ultimate issue which confronts us.

For the sake of all that we ourselves hold dear, and [that] of order and peace, it is unthinkable that we should refuse to meet the challenge.

George VI, King of England

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Amro One
One.
#12 - 2011-11-23 03:52:42 UTC
Can I have your stuff?
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#13 - 2011-11-23 04:55:04 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
T' Elk wrote:
So in essence you are whining about the whining threads, which is by far worse than the whining threads themselves... You sir have just been nominated for the Darwin Awards.
I thought you had to die to get that award :P
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-11-23 05:31:09 UTC
Ppl get pissed when CCP starts handing the game over to the Goons

then again... see sig. Theyre already ******. They just dont know it lol

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-11-23 05:31:46 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Ppl get pissed


fixed
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-11-23 05:49:47 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Ppl get pissed when CCP starts handing the game over to the Goons

then again... see sig. Theyre already ******. They just dont know it lol


refixt

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
#17 - 2011-11-23 06:00:59 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
David Grogan wrote:
if ganker ships get a buff ccp need to also give mining barges and exumers a hp & mid slot buff too.


[Covetor, defens WTF??]
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

180/250 CPU
36/43.75 grid

Use MEDIUM T2 shield extender result in
214/250 CPU
59.25/43.75 grid

Not able to fit a MEDIUM extender on a MEDIUM hull where people normaly fitt LARGE extender on every cruiser size hull??

True, I almost forgot if you want to get some hp on your miner you have to sacrifice efficiency - not as if mining is very proitable to start with. I wonder why are people still doing it in the first place?
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-11-23 06:21:45 UTC
Jennifer Starling wrote:
Jojo Jackson wrote:
David Grogan wrote:
if ganker ships get a buff ccp need to also give mining barges and exumers a hp & mid slot buff too.


[Covetor, defens WTF??]
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

180/250 CPU
36/43.75 grid

Use MEDIUM T2 shield extender result in
214/250 CPU
59.25/43.75 grid

Not able to fit a MEDIUM extender on a MEDIUM hull where people normaly fitt LARGE extender on every cruiser size hull??

True, I almost forgot if you want to get some hp on your miner you have to sacrifice efficiency - not as if mining is very proitable to start with. I wonder why are people still doing it in the first place?


Well the one doing it are the one who plays EVE as glorified IRC client. Or are engaged in some other activites.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
#19 - 2011-11-23 06:26:36 UTC
YAY!! Yet ANOTHER lame gank-w4nk thread!!
Poast moar please!

-10/10
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#20 - 2011-11-23 08:21:47 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
YAY!! Yet ANOTHER lame gank-w4nk thread!!
Poast moar please!

-10/10
Wow. You do adolescent very well. My compliments.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

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