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Report - Astero Testing & Initial Analysis of Ghost Sites

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Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#1 - 2013-12-25 07:32:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Eran Mintor
Salutations IGS,

Last month, a group of people coalesced in response to the newly discovered "Ghost Sites" and contained technologies. Our investigations are currently ongoing. Our intention is to publish our reports for public review when deemed appropriate and responsible. I therefore present my first report on the Sisters of EVE frigate, the Astero, and it's use in the Ghost sites. My initial findings of the sites are also contained. Criticism & inquiry openly welcomed.

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From: Eran Mintor
Sent: 2013.12.04 09:26
To: ****

Salutations ****,

At the beginning of the week of November 28th, I set out with the intention to discover as many different 'Ghost sites' as possible while also testing the limits of the Astero and it's extraction abilities in these research facilities. Sadly, my findings are less than I have hoped thus far, but I will continue when possible. Current firmware issues following a recent podding have me station-bound for the foreseeable future and so my capacity is severly limited till the issue is resolved.

Part I: Covert Research Facilities

To start, these research facilities are rumored to be operated by five "pirate" factions in all areas of space, even Anoikis. I have found facilities owned by Serpentis, Guristas, Angel Cartel, & Blood Raiders. The rumored fifth is Syndicate but further investigation is required to confirm this. The facilities locations are spread in a seemingly random pattern and my higher rate of encounters in low-sec, I believe, is a statistical outlier.

In all I've found a dozen facilities, more than half (7) in lo-sec while finding none (0) in J-space, only one (1) in hi-sec , and four (4) in null-sec. These facilities appear on the directional scanner that even the smallest vessel, the capsule, come equipped with. They are rated depending on the location of space. Hi-sec facilities are labeled "Lesser (Faction) Covert Research Facility", Lo-sec "Standard (Faction) Covert Research Facility", Null-sec "Improved (Faction) Covert Research Facility", and J-space is rumored to be labeled "Superior (Faction) Covert Research Facility". As I stated, I've yet to locate one in J-space despite my efforts so confirmation is needed, but it's rumored all five groups have a presence there.

Upon warp-in there are no ships present and four individual facilities, each approximately fifteen (15) kilometers from "zero" in a square formation. Warping in cloaked seems to delay the dispatching of the local response teams and also the access timer failsafe of the research facility itself. It is highly recommended that you scan the facilities with cargo scanners to ascertain which has the rarer contents before initiating a hack, as you will often only have time for one or two before the access timer failsafe triggers a detonation or the response teams breach the facility structures, also triggering a detonation.

Hacks are variable respective of space classification. Null-sec facilities are harder to access than hi-sec, and so on. Be very careful though as there is only one chance per facility to access it and failure results in detonation. Regarding the access difficulty and likelyhood of technological finds per facility-I believe it is currently impossible to say with clarity if all facilities in a site are equal. Extensive data-mining is required to ensure any hypothesis beyond a doubt, but I personally feel that they are not the same, meaning facilities have a higher/lower chance of access and containment of technological items depending on their classification (databank vs. mainframe). I only say this from my limited personal experience. Findings seem to differ based on the location of these facilities as well. Lo-sec is the only area I've found "Shattered Villard Wheels" thus far, and null-sec is the only place I've found "Ascendancy" (high-grade) implant blueprints. In addition, I've found the sites in null-sec to have higher level defensive nodes. The "Shattered Villard Wheels" are something of a curiosity to me that I'll go into later. In all sites I have found "Covert Research Tools" which are another item of interest.

After the facility is alerted of my presence, the response teams scramble to respond. Sometimes it seem's they're sleeping, other times they're there within seconds. The quickest response I've timed thus far is twenty (20) seconds. Different forces are utilized depending on the security status of the location. Null-sec has cruiser sized craft that have superior tanking and damage projection. Attempting to destroy these responding units is practically pointless, as the time it will take to burn through to their structure likely outlasts the time they are present in the facility. The objective of the response teams seems to be a quick response to any alert and subsequent warp disruption of any trespassers found; some small fire may be taken during this period. They then target and destroy all facilities to prevent further intrusion of their systems. Finally, upon detonation of the facilities, they will turn all their guns on any remaining intruders for a few seconds while they align out and prepare for warp. Hi-sec facilities have weaker responding teams that are both easier to sustain fire from and destroy, if necessary.

In regards to the "Access Timer Failsafe" and facility detonation-presenting yourself to local scanners in the facility seems to trigger a failsafe mechanism in all the facilities that begins a countdown until detonation. Warping out or re-cloaking does not seem to stop or alter the countdown. When the time expires, a large detonation erupts from all facilities damaging anything within a certain radius. Detonations in null-sec locations are approximately ten (10) kilometers in radius from point of origin, the facilities themselves. These are pure explosions and will only damage material not properly shielded from explosive energy.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#2 - 2013-12-25 07:32:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Eran Mintor
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Part II: Astero Testing

When I first discovered these research sites I was not using an Astero but aimed to quickly acquire one. I molded it so that it could survive the explosive detonations and, hopefully, the incoming rounds from the response teams. I tested the ship in a wide range of sites, both lo-sec and null-sec, and have had mixed results.

With the addition of the mobile depots, it is possible to create a fit for traveling (microwarpdrive & electronics) and refit on location for the job (400mm armor plate, explosive armor hardener, analyzer & cargo scanner, afterburner, ancillary shield booster). This allows the ship to go nearly anywhere with little risk to itself while allowing extreme specialization.

However, the ship needs more work for it to be able to endure the entire spectrum of Ghost sites. Whether it's simply not capable, or if the fittings need some tweaking is up for examination. However, these are my results: In all Serpentis, Angel Cartel, and Blood Raider sites, the ship performed flawlessly in both lo-sec and null-sec locations. The detonations are absorbed by the shield and approximately half the armor. The afterburner evades most incoming rounds while the shield boost can manage one or two strikes that land. The issue arises in Guristas facilities where their use of light missiles prove difficult to evade and catastrophic to the Astero hull.

Conclusion: Objects of Inquiry

Despite it's failings, the Astero has succeeded where others thought impossible and has proven to be capable of most Ghost anomolies while being similar in hacking ability of 'Covert Ops' frigates. It certainly doesn't exceed an Anathema or other cov-ops in scanning ability, but it exceeds in durability and versatility. Recent discoveries regarding Guristas facilities have leaned my opinion away from it being the optimal vessel for research into these facilities, and other vessels such as the Stratios, Recon Cruisers, and other high-level craft likely fit the bill better than the Astero. However, the Astero's incredible ability to stealthily move into hostile territories while evading interception gives it a niche outside of Guristas Ghost sites.

My piloting of the ship was nothing spectacular. The benefit of such a small craft is the lack of crew-I was able to pilot it on my own with all systems responsive to personal commands from the capsule. Despite my time in pod, my skills are mediocre and, in regards to the Astero, are quick to acquire if pursued by dedicated minds. The armor hardening skills and hacking knowledge required for my pursuits can be learned in only a few weeks, at worst. High-level scanning is not required as any vessel is capable of detecting these facilities upon entering the local system using the most basic system scan.

I do wish to note that most frigates, other than the Astero, are unlikely to be as capable at extraction. The only other frigates I would consider at this time are the 'Merlin' and 'Punisher,' as they both have exceptional abilities at sustaining certain energies when configured correctly. I have yet to do testing with these craft under such necessary conditions.

I should note that all times I've entered "Ghost sites" I've done so with no hostile intentions; combat drones are only utilized for the mitigation, or the evacuation, of any derelict mission.

In regards to the "Shattered Villard Wheels," I have reached a wall of somesort. These items reference a device of myth and misunderstanding. Villard wheels are rumored to be part of "perpetual motion devices."

'Perpetual motion describes motion that continues indefinitely without any external source of energy.'

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

I personally have reached no solid conclusion regarding these villard wheels and should anyone with greater knowledge in laws of physics, specifically thermodynamics and hyper-eludian/quantum physics, be able, then please weigh in regarding their possible use and consequence. I would be happy to lend material for examination.

While the "Covert Research Tools" are also shrouded in unknowns, they are not required in the manufacturing of the newly researched Ascendancy implants. However, the factions constructing these facilities are buying back any of these "tools" that are acquired and so they must lend some value to their efforts. This leads me to conclude that they are enabling research in some way, whether through reverse-engineering or some other method is unknown at this point.

I do wish to note that this report was helped in part by Makoto Priano, of Priano Trans-Stellar State Services, who collaborated on this project with me. Furthermore, I wish to illuminate another avenue of concern that she brought to light regarding the other materials required for the production of these new implants. Cryoprotectant, gel-matrix biopaste, and synthetic synapses are all required in addition to villard wheels for the manufacturing of the Ascendancy implants. While it's possible these secondary materials are necessary due to the nature of implants, further information and insight would be welcome if available.

Furthermore, Ms. Priano has raised the idea of using a decoy drone to draw fire of the patroling reponse teams. It should be noted that the detonations from the facilities damage drones as well as ships; thus such a tactic  should be tried with drones out of range of the detonations, or deployment must occur after the detonations. Drones could be, as Ms. Priano suggests, a buffer for the Astero's vulnerability in Guristas sites if targeted by the response teams.

Further testing is needed in both Guristas and J-space, including investigation in use of drones as counter-measures.

This concludes my report. I hope to extend and continue my studies when physically capable.

**** Member,
-Eran Mintor
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#3 - 2013-12-25 07:33:51 UTC
Reserved
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#4 - 2013-12-25 07:54:41 UTC
Well done.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#5 - 2013-12-25 08:48:40 UTC
Again, Mr. Mintor, thank you for the citation here. I can confirm reports that the Astero is an effective research facility raider. Following the fitting guidelines provided by Mr. Mintor with some minor modifications, an associate cleared several dozen sites in several days of sweeping low security systems with no significant damage or risk to ship. Unfortunately, we haven't yet been able to verify the effectiveness of the Astero in null security research facilities, but I believe that Mr. Mintor's research here is a sound base.

Please note that a largely unskilled hacker is able to clear lowsec research facilities without significant risk. Null security sites, from what I understand, do require substantially greater hacking expertise.

We have yet to locate a research facility in wormhole space, but PRIAN does have teams conducting searches at this time.

Mr. Mintor, please contact me at your earliest convenience with regard to some additional discussion.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2013-12-25 10:32:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Makoto Priano wrote:
Again, Mr. Mintor, thank you for the citation here. I can confirm reports that the Astero is an effective research facility raider. Following the fitting guidelines provided by Mr. Mintor with some minor modifications, an associate cleared several dozen sites in several days of sweeping low security systems with no significant damage or risk to ship. Unfortunately, we haven't yet been able to verify the effectiveness of the Astero in null security research facilities, but I believe that Mr. Mintor's research here is a sound base.

Please note that a largely unskilled hacker is able to clear lowsec research facilities without significant risk. Null security sites, from what I understand, do require substantially greater hacking expertise.

We have yet to locate a research facility in wormhole space, but PRIAN does have teams conducting searches at this time.

Mr. Mintor, please contact me at your earliest convenience with regard to some additional discussion.



I would like to add that an Astero is not even necessary for hacking covert sites in high security space.

SSTG Remnant was in service for 3 years as an "all purpose" exploration ship before meetings it's demise before Serpentis guns as they arrived to save one of their "Madcaps". Shortly after that, SSTG Remorseless was assembled to take its place, but before it could enter service, the Astero and Stratios were released to the capsuleer community. Both SSTG Remnant and SSTG Remorseless are Minmatar battlecruisers commonly referred to as the Cyclone. The Cyclone is a very old, yet flexible and powerful hull.

Ironically, while being moved out of Villore for a refit to other tasks, SSTG Remorseless encountered a covert site. The codebreaking equipment was still installed, as well as some armaments, but there was no protective equipment at all beyond the factory-installed shielding and armor systems.

SSTG Remorseless, like SSTG Remnant, fields a battleship-sized afterburner to maintain a wide orbit at speed and rely on drones and missiles, but in this case, SSTG Remorseless did not have the afterburner running during this encounter (a battle cruiser at 1000 meters/sec is rather unwieldy for hacking operations).

When the encounter, as previously described (appears to be a standard operating procedure amongst the pirate factions) was over, SSTG Remorseless was down to 12 percent of remaining armor.

In summary, I would say that any ship with code-breaking equipment can handle a covert site in high security space. Chances are the factions do not want to expose their best cryptography in areas where they have the least advantage or worst exposure. A memetic rig can also help if the pilot feels their hacking capability is lacking. But overall I would say that for high security space, given my experience, defenses would be a more important issue than the skills of the pilot so far as hacking is concerned. So new pilots who may not yet be able to afford or field an SoE ship and instead deploy one of their more combat-oriented spacecraft should be well advised that while why may be able to defeat the crypto of the installation, their ability to survive the armed response and the site destruction is a more important matter.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Victonus BrightBlade
Society of Dragons
#7 - 2013-12-25 18:56:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Victonus BrightBlade
o7 Good day, I would like to assist with what has been posted already in regards to the High Sec Ghostsites. With my limited skills in this field of study..(being a Rockhound myself) I have seen the research sites pop on and off radar. 3 minutes is what I have noticed.. from initial warp in to site destruction. Upon testing this theory for myself I have experimented with the loss of several of my ships (all duplicates of the original.. Gallente Imicus). I can confirm the three minute rule is a good base. I do want to warn my fellow capsuleers that there are several unscrupulous pilots who are warping to site to set off the alarms and warping out immediately. This creates a shorter self destruct timer so if another pilot attempts the hack they will get caught in the explosion.. thereby leaving their ships as lootable wreckage. Successful attempts has yielded Ascendancy BPC's and the Shattered wheels.
I hope this bit of information assists in any research you are conducting, as for me i'll stick with the mining!

On that note
Fly Safe and may your guns never point in my direction!

Fly Safe, Buy Used!

Ollie Rundle
#8 - 2013-12-26 08:23:25 UTC
Excellent work and warm thanks for its publication, Mr Mintor. Your efforts and the efforts of those who have assisted you have laid a solid foundation for further work in these fields.

While I've no doubt you would have been successful in pursuing this research individually, that you've done it in collaboration with the initiative announced here is much appreciated. I look forward to the initiative supporting future research you may be considering and seeing the results of that when it is made public.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2013-12-26 10:52:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
FYI.

Astero down, high resist system, Explosion resistance at 72 percent, but this was not enough.


Name: Secure Depot / Serpentis (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 2277


I'm thinking that that original directive of a large buffer with specific resist emphasis on explosive damage would certainly be better. The entire destruction, from initial attack of the security response to destruction of the ship via detonation of the facility was roughly 10 seconds.

Given there was little time to hack a second container, it might simply be prudent to hack one container and run off quickly like a small rodent stealing some cheese.

I would say that even in high security space the self-destruct of these covert sites will "hit you like a gate camp". Lol

The Sisters already have another for me. I give these nuns some bad habits.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!