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Speed tanking
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Spud Lazair
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-12-25 00:52:27 UTC
could someone please explain the correct way to speed tank? is it just a case of picking an object and orbiting it at an increased speed while shooting target's?

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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#2 - 2013-12-25 01:04:42 UTC
Against...

Missiles = max speed any direction
Turrets = max speed perpendicular to incoming fire
Spud Lazair
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-12-25 01:26:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Spud Lazair
using missiles against mission rats, belt rats etc

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#4 - 2013-12-25 04:18:22 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/calculators.php#tracking
http://eveinfo.com/npcships/

That's a tracking calculator and some information about NPC rats which you can use to work out their tracking against you.

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-12-25 05:12:18 UTC
I highly recommend this descriptive video on turret tracking.

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Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#6 - 2013-12-25 08:09:42 UTC
First rule of speed tanking:

Speed tanking works usually better with Afterburner because it does not raise your signature. Exceptions are ships which have a Microwarpdrive signature reduction bonus like Interceptors, Assault Frigates, or Heavy Assault Cruisers.

Second rule of speed tanking:
If you enemy is using missiles then you just fly in one generic direction with highest possible speed to speed tank the missile damage.
If you enemy is using turrets, then you should orbit him at close range to avoid being hit. Works best if you only have one enemy or the enemies are close together.
Spud Lazair
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-12-25 15:15:14 UTC
ok thanks for the replies, sounds a bit more complicated than i thought.

so if you have a ship with a targeting range of 100km and your missiles have a flight range of 60km and your enemy is using turrets, would you still orbit at close range?

and if the enemy is using missiles agaist you i guess your flying away from him and the incoming missiles?

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-12-25 17:25:51 UTC
Spud Lazair wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, sounds a bit more complicated than i thought.

so if you have a ship with a targeting range of 100km and your missiles have a flight range of 60km and your enemy is using turrets, would you still orbit at close range?

and if the enemy is using missiles agaist you i guess your flying away from him and the incoming missiles?

Are we talking pvp? pve?

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Spud Lazair
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-12-25 18:52:43 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Spud Lazair wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, sounds a bit more complicated than i thought.

so if you have a ship with a targeting range of 100km and your missiles have a flight range of 60km and your enemy is using turrets, would you still orbit at close range?

and if the enemy is using missiles agaist you i guess your flying away from him and the incoming missiles?

Are we talking pvp? pve?



predominatly mission running, belt rats and if someone tackles me then yes them too if possible

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Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-12-26 00:02:20 UTC
Spud Lazair wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Spud Lazair wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, sounds a bit more complicated than i thought.

so if you have a ship with a targeting range of 100km and your missiles have a flight range of 60km and your enemy is using turrets, would you still orbit at close range?

and if the enemy is using missiles agaist you i guess your flying away from him and the incoming missiles?

Are we talking pvp? pve?



predominatly mission running, belt rats and if someone tackles me then yes them too if possible


Speed tanking and range tanking are different things. Speed tanking is more powerful the closer you are to enemy (watch out for webifiers and scramblers though). Range tanking is more powerful the further away you are.

In PVE range tanking > speed tanking when it does not affect your dps, though your missile volley counting will get out of hand so that can be an exception.

In PVP range tanking is only really viable when you know you can prevent your enemy from warping away either by having for example enough alpha to surprise kill him, or by a long point/bubbles, or by friends, or by ~~masterful psychology (read: the enemy is bad)~~.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#11 - 2013-12-26 00:53:39 UTC
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-12-26 09:30:31 UTC
Spud Lazair wrote:
ok thanks for the replies, sounds a bit more complicated than i thought.

so if you have a ship with a targeting range of 100km and your missiles have a flight range of 60km and your enemy is using turrets, would you still orbit at close range?

and if the enemy is using missiles agaist you i guess your flying away from him and the incoming missiles?


Just remember to stay outside web range.

Fast missile ships do use exaclty that tactic, because their weapons ignore your own speed, If you are usign turrets you will hamper your own tracking as much as the enemy tracking.

That is the main advantage of missiles that so many whinners are unable to perceive.

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