EVE General Discussion

Shots fired!

I have zero need for code proof because i have two things on my side:

1) I'm not making baseless uneducated claims about whats breaking the game, you are, so you would then bear the burden of evidence

2) I have a Dev post to collaborate what I'm saying, see how they all tie nicely together without needing any magical bullet or hanging chad?

Where did I say that?



The biggest fight in EVE had over 4k people and did not result in a node death. So yea, I know EVE can handle a 3k fight, but we arnt talking about a 3k fight, or even one with 2k.

They are doing down with just 1200 in local, fights that are not all that special in numbers.

If by milkshake you mean yours and NC. cap/super/titan fleet then yeah. Is that surprising?

You

Don't

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I can't spell it out any more clearly than that, you literally have no idea if the game can still handle that because....and here's the important part that keeps bouncing off your thick skull...

The game code has changed since those fights.


What part of this do you not understand so we can go over it slowly.

Jesus christ its not like you're new to EVE baltec, CCP changes the code and things change, sometimes those things are silly and stupid, sometimes not so much (like when your dread would sige and fire all its ammo at once, or deletes your .ini file). Sometimes **** goes sideways and they have to work out why, pointing all the blame at the boogey man thats beating you in a war is something that only an idiot would do.

You mean the 2k F1 pubbies you jump on those slowcats do'nt count suddenly?

You heard it here first folks, the nodes die when a system only has carriers in local, not a single subcap ship was in seven jumps from that node when it keeled.

We havent been dumping 2k people, thats the point.

We are seeing node deaths with smaller fleets than usually used in fights.

Welcome to the same thing that everybody else who wasn't sucking on rocks decided, minus the years part because no, eve hasn't supported 4k man fights for years at all.

Something in the EVE code is now breaking when its making a lot of calculations.

Might this happen in heavy subcap numbers? Yes but we don't know.

Do the nodes perform fine when its just slowcats and 4-500 sub caps? Yes but who knows what the tipping number is.

Could bombs have something to do with it? Sure, bombs blowing up **** has always made EVE poop its pants.

Could SOV have something to do with it? Sure in the last big brawl the system lost the farm when the TCU onlined


So really it could be anything, anything at all, having and adverse effect on the code, for you to say 'OH ITS THE CARRIERS" makes you look like a moron, because you literally have less idea than I do and I'm technically on the same level as the Clovis people.

There have been uncountable 1200 man fights in many wars involving many different blocks for years. We have had several 2000+ man fights on unreinforced nodes over the last few years too.

Hell, we pulled two bigger blue on blue fights in the last two years than we are having in this war and they didn't result in node deaths. Hell, even the 6NJ slaughter of the old NC capital fleet didn't see a node death and that was back in 2010.

So its nothing at all to do with the drones swelling the numbers by 5x for our domis and 10x with your carriers, putting the node under stress for hours at a time and then taking a literal dump when the escalation dreads and then supers jump in?

I dont buy it, CCP, as far as we can tell, have not changed anything to do with the impacted things and subacp fleets are getting along just fine with the same numbers involved.