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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#21 - 2013-12-23 05:37:14 UTC
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Tore Vest
#22 - 2013-12-23 05:43:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tore Vest
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.





yepp... it has worked before... with titans and supers.. Theyr used to get what they want

Eh... nerf fleetwarp

No troll.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#23 - 2013-12-23 06:01:35 UTC
grrr gallente

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-12-23 06:25:31 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.





yepp... it has worked before... with titans and supers.. Theyr used to get what they want

Eh... nerf fleetwarp

fleetwarp? too small man. nerf FLEETS, no more than 5 men per fleet.
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
#25 - 2013-12-23 06:41:16 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.


I really don't care who wins and who loses.
I just care about having fun and abusing the **** out of the drone mechanic doesn't make the experience fun :(
The tidi is ridiculous, so is the lack of kills in long-hour fights.

No fun allowed :(
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#26 - 2013-12-23 08:13:10 UTC
stelth nerf thread X

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#27 - 2013-12-23 08:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Oh noes....sentry drones, everywhere!!!

We can't figure out a way to beat that without giving up our F1 drones!!!

CCP can we haz Archon nerf?

No one's allowed to beat us!

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It's going to be fun after that dread fleet gets owned from ~tactics~ that doesn't involve backdoor SOV drops. I wonder if EVEbet will take a bet on what CFC alliance changes sides first...

...
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
#28 - 2013-12-23 08:33:50 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Oh noes....sentry drones, everywhere!!!

We can't figure out a way to beat that without giving up our F1 drones!!!

CCP can we haz Archon nerf?

No one's allowed to beat us!


Oh it's ok, you don't have to be able to READ in order to post in a topic on these forums.

Please help yourself to any refreshments from our fridge and there's some warm food in the oven.
Let me know when your appetite moves more towards me slipping into something more comfortable and I'll do just that.
Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Mellivora Nulla Irrumabo
#29 - 2013-12-23 10:04:42 UTC
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.


[snip]
[snap]
The tidi is ridiculous, so is the lack of kills in long-hour fights.

No fun allowed :(



Once upon a time we had node crashes with 50 v 50, then CCP upgraded.
A wee little bit later we had node crashes with 100 v 100, then CCP upgraded.
So small amount of time later we had node crashes with 200 v 200, then CCP upgraded.
Woe the seconds that flew by we had node crashes with 500 v 500, then CCP upgraded.
long live the system pilot cap at 750 and advanced notice of fights.
Then time went by and we had node crashes with 1000 v 1000.
All hail the TiDi to root out our nodes of evil and provide stability to all places.
And so the blobs of Sauron came and went as the ages past and the blob was once again found, by a Yule lad no less.
and now we have node crashes with 2000 v 2000....

If CCP upgrades now you will just bring more alts online and make it 4000 v 4000 crashing the node once more until ccp upgrades that.

No amount of upgrading or nerfing is going to be a better solution to the mentality of just drop in 2000 more raging brainless F1 randoms. What you should be asking for is CCP think of a solution where it is counter intuitive to blob and strategically important to spread out over multiple fronts / systems.

Break the mentality not the game.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#30 - 2013-12-23 10:49:43 UTC
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/AvU6SW0.jpg


The current state of nullsec warfare looks like countless fuN!!!!11111


Have blob warfare ever been fun?

❤️️💛💚💙💜
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
#31 - 2013-12-23 11:09:06 UTC
Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote:
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.


[snip]
[snap]
The tidi is ridiculous, so is the lack of kills in long-hour fights.

No fun allowed :(



Once upon a time we had node crashes with 50 v 50, then CCP upgraded.
A wee little bit later we had node crashes with 100 v 100, then CCP upgraded.
So small amount of time later we had node crashes with 200 v 200, then CCP upgraded.
Woe the seconds that flew by we had node crashes with 500 v 500, then CCP upgraded.
long live the system pilot cap at 750 and advanced notice of fights.
Then time went by and we had node crashes with 1000 v 1000.
All hail the TiDi to root out our nodes of evil and provide stability to all places.
And so the blobs of Sauron came and went as the ages past and the blob was once again found, by a Yule lad no less.
and now we have node crashes with 2000 v 2000....

If CCP upgrades now you will just bring more alts online and make it 4000 v 4000 crashing the node once more until ccp upgrades that.

No amount of upgrading or nerfing is going to be a better solution to the mentality of just drop in 2000 more raging brainless F1 randoms. What you should be asking for is CCP think of a solution where it is counter intuitive to blob and strategically important to spread out over multiple fronts / systems.

Break the mentality not the game.


The fight the screenshot was taken in was with ~1000 people in local.
Are you saying we should regard drones and players equal in the fight for bandwidth allocation ?

Also about the mentality. Whose mentality?.. the one who brings 1k nerds in subcaps or the one who brings 400nerds in capitals/supers +thousands upon thousands of drones?
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
#32 - 2013-12-23 11:11:32 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/AvU6SW0.jpg


The current state of nullsec warfare looks like countless fuN!!!!11111


Have blob warfare ever been fun?



Never, it's the worse kind of engagement you can have in EvE.
It is however necessary with current sov mechanics.

At least before these capital blobs, things used to die.
Now you see 6 hour fights with 5 capitals dying.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#33 - 2013-12-23 11:16:33 UTC
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/AvU6SW0.jpg


The current state of nullsec warfare looks like countless fuN!!!!11111


Have blob warfare ever been fun?



Never, it's the worse kind of engagement you can have in EvE.
It is however necessary with current sov mechanics.

At least before these capital blobs, things used to die.
Now you see 6 hour fights with 5 capitals dying.


Then they should spend their time to fix the actual probem, as Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote.

Hint: Goonswarm is already working on their counter to Slowcats. Maybe you should copy it.

❤️️💛💚💙💜
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
#34 - 2013-12-23 11:22:07 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Then they should spend their time to fix the actual probem, as Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote.

Hint: Goonswarm is already working on their counter to Slowcats. Maybe you should copy it.


As I've stated before, winning or losing is pointless if you're not enjoying yourself.
Sadly I don't find entertainment in simply winning :/

Also my opinion is that there really isn't a counter to that amount of capitals... especially since, if you do get enough dreads to counter, the following escalation will break the node.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2013-12-23 11:26:17 UTC
Mizhir wrote:


Hint: Goonswarm is already working on their counter to Slowcats. Maybe you should copy it.


Nobody else can field the dreads in the numbers needed.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#36 - 2013-12-23 11:27:46 UTC
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Then they should spend their time to fix the actual probem, as Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote.

Hint: Goonswarm is already working on their counter to Slowcats. Maybe you should copy it.


As I've stated before, winning or losing is pointless if you're not enjoying yourself.
Sadly I don't find entertainment in simply winning :/

Also my opinion is that there really isn't a counter to that amount of capitals... especially since, if you do get enough dreads to counter, the following escalation will break the node.


Which brings us back to the main problem: The blobbing itself.

❤️️💛💚💙💜
Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
#37 - 2013-12-23 11:32:51 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Then they should spend their time to fix the actual probem, as Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote.

Hint: Goonswarm is already working on their counter to Slowcats. Maybe you should copy it.


As I've stated before, winning or losing is pointless if you're not enjoying yourself.
Sadly I don't find entertainment in simply winning :/

Also my opinion is that there really isn't a counter to that amount of capitals... especially since, if you do get enough dreads to counter, the following escalation will break the node.


Which brings us back to the main problem: The blobbing itself.


Blobbing with people is a problem.
So is blobbing with drones.
Which one is easier to fix?
iskflakes
#38 - 2013-12-23 12:21:11 UTC
I love seeing all these stealth drone assist / slowcat nerf threads. Right now, slowcats are the counter to the subcap blob. Slowcats use drones, so we see a lot of drones. If you want to see people using guns, bring back tracking titans as the blob counter of choice. If you don't want blobs to be countered at all, then go play some other game where the team with the most numbers always wins.

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iskflakes
#39 - 2013-12-23 12:26:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Mizhir wrote:


Hint: Goonswarm is already working on their counter to Slowcats. Maybe you should copy it.


Nobody else can field the dreads in the numbers needed.


Black legion and RUSRUS already fielded enough dreads to break the slowcat fleet on two or three occasions, I think right now you need about 120 of them. Needing 120 capitals to kill 300 capitals seems pretty balanced to me (especially considering the slowcat fleet has 0 mobility and can't escape from long range fire).

Short range dreads also melt slowcat fleets (however you probably won't do better than even isk efficiency, making this an expensive option). Nearly any alliance can field enough dreads to kill an equal number of slowcats.

If you prefer subcap counters you could also use void bombs, smartbombs or neuts.

If your alliance actually has some courage, which yours does not, you can field titans. Titans will show a slowcat blob who's boss.

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Sevendeadly Sins
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-12-23 12:43:22 UTC
Zulu Death Mask wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Drone assist whine threads : Easier than coming up with a counter-tactic.


I really don't care who wins and who loses.
I just care about having fun and abusing the **** out of the drone mechanic doesn't make the experience fun :(
The tidi is ridiculous, so is the lack of kills in long-hour fights.

No fun allowed :(


That's why low-sec and pirates exist :)

You 0.0 pioneers are having your souls sucked out of your cloned body, why don't you set up a small gang (small as in a 5-10 gang) and just head out to low and kill something?

No TIDI, and no bubbles!

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