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Best lvl 4 ships
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Phoehnix
Swiss Tax Avoidance Bank Inc
#1 - 2013-12-22 07:46:50 UTC
Topic pretty much explains it, what are the best LVL 4 mission ships nowadays? And why?
Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-12-22 10:02:04 UTC
Depends heavily on where you are, what you're doing, and how much you're willing to spend on it. We'd need a bit more information to help you, as one ship (Let's say a Nightmare) might not be very good for some tasks (Shooting Angels) while excellent at others (Shooting Sansha).
Phoehnix
Swiss Tax Avoidance Bank Inc
#3 - 2013-12-22 10:15:32 UTC
I can spend anything and I'm running missions for Amarr, so usually vs Sansha or Blood Raiders.
Right now I have a Nightmare.
Mr Pragmatic
#4 - 2013-12-22 10:31:24 UTC
My recommendation is a ship that can swap DPS it deals.

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Phoehnix
Swiss Tax Avoidance Bank Inc
#5 - 2013-12-22 10:40:05 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
My recommendation is a ship that can swap DPS it deals.


So for example Golem or CNR?
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-22 11:24:23 UTC
Machariel because it goes in and out fastest and is also big.
Boomhaur
#7 - 2013-12-22 11:29:53 UTC
Phoehnix wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
My recommendation is a ship that can swap DPS it deals.


So for example Golem or CNR?


Forgetting the TFI if were talking missile spewing boats.

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#8 - 2013-12-22 11:32:23 UTC
pve in amarr, anything with big lazorzzzzz.
if your looking to travel though you might want a missile boat.

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Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#9 - 2013-12-22 11:35:08 UTC
Machariel/Vargur/CNR/Golem/TFI/Rattlesnake. Other ships that can't change damage types and are thus not optimal against certain rats, but still deserve respectable mention against specific rats: Paladin/Kronos/Nightmare/Vindicator.

/thread
Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-12-22 12:58:25 UTC
If you're in amarr pew pewing Sansha and Blood Raiders, your Nightmare is a great choice. While you may get slightly better results from different ships, I can't see the difference being big enough to justify a different race/weapon system. If you do go with something else, I'd suggest (as previously stated) something that can switch damage types for better utility.
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#11 - 2013-12-22 13:30:24 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Machariel/Vargur/CNR/Golem/TFI/Rattlesnake. Other ships that can't change damage types and are thus not optimal against certain rats, but still deserve respectable mention against specific rats: Paladin/Kronos/Nightmare/Vindicator.

/thread


Here's your answer... little padawan
Phoehnix
Swiss Tax Avoidance Bank Inc
#12 - 2013-12-22 13:45:30 UTC
Guess i'll refit my nightmare for incursions then and get a CNR or something for missions.
Thanks for the replies!
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#13 - 2013-12-22 20:32:15 UTC
Rattlesnake.

No other ship comes close to the god mode it puts out in L4's.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2013-12-22 23:07:21 UTC
I'd take the paladin for amarr missions (insane tachyon range, ability to refit to megapulse, easy to fly with 4hs and a t2 rof rig, can tank like a beast, Ewar immune with bastion mode), nightmare is probably in second, has most of the advantages of the paladin. having a Mach, CNR, or maybe a strategic cruiser will be nice for a small handful of missions as some missions it is better to just be fast, or switch damage types (like Angels Extra).

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stoicfaux
#15 - 2013-12-23 00:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Shuttle, frigate, interceptor for blitzing things like recon.
MWD Mach is good for blitzing, especially dread scarlett.
CNR, Golem for general missioning.
Paladin for Amarr space.

Edit: Vargur is probably good for general missioning, but you will probably need to MJD it constantly.

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Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#16 - 2013-12-23 09:40:24 UTC
Drakes. For price of mach you can have two drakes with pilots plexed.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-12-23 18:30:40 UTC
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
Machariel/Vargur/CNR/Golem/TFI/Rattlesnake. Other ships that can't change damage types and are thus not optimal against certain rats, but still deserve respectable mention against specific rats: Paladin/Kronos/Nightmare/Vindicator.

/thread


Here's your answer... little padawan

projectile ships are not ideal for guristas.. imo and yes I have tried them
Khadrea Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#18 - 2013-12-24 08:24:56 UTC
Phoehnix wrote:
I can spend anything and I'm running missions for Amarr, so usually vs Sansha or Blood Raiders.
Right now I have a Nightmare.


Bastioned Megapulse Paladin :)
Heavensend
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-12-24 08:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Heavensend
1000th time the same question. 1000th time the same answer.

For missions in Amarr space take Tachy Pala with Bastion and dont think Macha or something else will be faster.

I tried both and nothing excels Bastion Pala against BR/Sansha/Drones or Mercs. With all 5 you will apply ~1100 dps at 70km range instantly.
Only downside Tachys fire only every 7secs. So ungroup lasers to avoid to much overkill.

Even with a combination of INMF, Conflag and Scorche in Pulse Lasers damage application is very good. 1250 dps with Conflag at about 31km.

In Minmatar Space i would prefer Vargur over Macha. Vargur much easier to fit with smashing omni tank. Besides most Angel ships orbit low.
So put 3 tractors on Vargurs high and let a flight of salving drones do their work while shooting red crosses.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-12-24 10:35:33 UTC
if you blitz them, Mach / ishtar / tengu / Proteus. The last three reach warp speed of over 6au/s. Mach just kills fast and reaches warp 3.

Blitzing is where the LP is at. Only do the minimum mission objective as fast as you can, only pick decent missions and decline bad ones if your standings buffer allows. Don't waste time on storylines.

SOE Blitz on these should run 200M/h with current exchange rate of Stratios.
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