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Kate stark
#21 - 2013-12-22 12:51:29 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Kate stark wrote:


no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i haven't redeemed and thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than any of the junk we've been given so far.


Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.


when you claim the gifts, is irrelevant.

i'm not whining, i'm just pointing out past gifts have been better. you seem to be failing to even understand the point i'm making.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#22 - 2013-12-22 13:03:13 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Kate stark wrote:


no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i haven't redeemed and thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than any of the junk we've been given so far.


Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.


when you claim the gifts, is irrelevant.

i'm not whining, i'm just pointing out past gifts have been better. you seem to be failing to even understand the point i'm making.


Then dont claim them.

I agree with you that there are probably not many gifts that are as valuable as a remap. But how can you say that previous gifts have been better when you haven't recieved the gift yet? If my estimations are correct, then this year's gifts will be great. I would love to see the price on the new genolution drop and some people might see a good use of a superfast shuttle to get around.

If you aren't whining, then why do you make such a big deal out of the Yule Lads? If you want to compare this year's gift with the ones from previous years then use the actual gift for comparison.

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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#23 - 2013-12-22 13:19:15 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the effort they put into the whole Yule Lads thing and I realise that anything CCP injects into the game is going to cause ripples one way or another but really, giving away T2 modules just is a "no go" kind of thing. T1 modules can also be npc drops and thus those are less of an issue but T2 items are all player produced and while they're "just" T2 data and relic analysers it does affect supply and demand for a player created product, effectively fcking over anyone producing or trading these (and no, I'm not one of them).

CCP shouldn't interfere with the market on specific items (be they Ishuk Scorpions, Magnates, T2 modules or whatever other silly thing they may come up with) like that, one would have thought they'd have learned that by now. Ideally they'd only give away stuff that's without any sort of use and doesn't interfere with any existing product but realistically that'll be quite difficult and costly to come up with something new every time, but they should at least realise what NOT to do.



Try to view CCP as a force of nature. Just like a hurricane can fck with a production facility in the affected area, so can the CCP fck with areas of the economy.
Kate stark
#24 - 2013-12-22 13:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Kate stark
Mizhir wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Kate stark wrote:


no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i haven't redeemed and thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than any of the junk we've been given so far.


Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.


when you claim the gifts, is irrelevant.

i'm not whining, i'm just pointing out past gifts have been better. you seem to be failing to even understand the point i'm making.


Then dont claim them.

I agree with you that there are probably not many gifts that are as valuable as a remap. But how can you say that previous gifts have been better when you haven't recieved the gift yet? If my estimations are correct, then this year's gifts will be great. I would love to see the price on the new genolution drop and some people might see a good use of a superfast shuttle to get around.

If you aren't whining, then why do you make such a big deal out of the Yule Lads? If you want to compare this year's gift with the ones from previous years then use the actual gift for comparison.



this has nothing to do with claiming them or not, not claiming them doesn't stop them being worse gifts than previous years.
the fact that they're strung out over 14 days is probably a part of that; rather than a good gift we've got 14 small less good gifts.

previousyears gifts have been better. firstly, there was choice. secondly, the choices had themes.

I'm not making such a big deal out of it, i've just got to state it several times because you keep missinng the point. if you want to keep the yule lads theme going, give each one a different "package" and then through out the month randomly reveal part of their packages, then on christmas day or something let players pick the package they want. When the gifts this year are a random assortment of unwanted/unneeded junk instead of a cool thing to look forward to, it's obvious there's going to be disappointment when people know CCP can, and have done it better in the past.

i mean, they don't even have to give out gifts at christmas, just get a few ccp devs to undock in some ships and have snowball fights with us. a surprise sansha incursion in jita to scare everyone shitless, until you realise they've also got snowball launchers equipped.

CCP can, and have done, christmas better than this before. maybe some of the folk at ccp are becoming as discontented with the player base as some of the players are becoming with ccp or something *shrug*

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Capt Lynch
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#25 - 2013-12-22 13:26:56 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


I don't. The only T2 or useful stuff I got so far is a core probe launcher, 50 ECM hornet drones and a data analyzer. Hardly breaking the bank.
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All Hail Boobies
#26 - 2013-12-22 14:23:47 UTC
CCP isn't giving this stuff away! The Yule Lads are! So blame them if you wanna blame someone. Blink
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Panda McLegion
#27 - 2013-12-22 14:28:58 UTC
I am outraged at how CCP has deflated the ABC ore market by giving away 200 Arkanor.

Hurf and/or Blurf!

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#28 - 2013-12-22 14:35:40 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
. T1 modules can also be npc drops



They can?

Ammo and drones can, but modules? Not for a few expansions

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Adeena Torcfist
R3b3llium
Get Off My Lawn
#29 - 2013-12-22 14:45:16 UTC
actually I like the T2 modules. makes a change from the T1 garbage, even if I cant use them yet Cool

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now wheres this SoE BS Twisted
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-12-22 14:54:14 UTC
At this stage, I'm just relieved that CCP has gone from idiotic large scale interference in the sandbox to idiotic small scale interference in the sandbox.

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#31 - 2013-12-22 15:56:53 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
At this stage, I'm just relieved that CCP has gone from idiotic large scale interference in the sandbox to idiotic small scale interference in the sandbox.


If you look at it like that then I guess progress has been made.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#32 - 2013-12-22 16:07:05 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.



Roll

You're obviously not in the business of producing Tech 2. This pretty much guts anyone who produces these items, making entire PI and POS chains obsolete due to the market suddenly flooding with goods.

It's CCP messing with the sandbox again. Now production has to worry if CCP will simply start spawning goods they produce. To make a PvP comparison, it's like that time they had an 'event' to help clear out all those alliance POS in Fountain with CCP spawned dreadnoughts and fleets.

I wonder which alliance they're helping this time?
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#33 - 2013-12-22 16:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Domanique Altares
OP is doing it wrong. This is all a matter of perspective.

I received a Miner II and an Expanded Probe Launcher II.

This tells OP, "ZOMG FUKKEN CCP they hate T2 production, let me BAWWW on forums."

It tells me, "Oh, hey. Some **** I won't use that I will reprocess at no cost to me. Also, I should gank more miners and explorers."
Damasi DeFanel
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-12-22 16:19:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Damasi DeFanel
Mizhir wrote:
Kate stark wrote:


no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i haven't redeemed and thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than any of the junk we've been given so far.


Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.



Next xmas.... an arena to battle fedo against each other for a piece of meat....

You know you want it >.>

Staged fedo duels, gambling isk on the odds... whole new game.
Lady Areola Fappington
#35 - 2013-12-22 16:21:43 UTC
You know, bitching about gifts given to you is an activity done by crass, lowbrow, uneducated people. It's a really great way to convince CCP that it's really just not worth the bother next year.

So far, I think all the gewgaws and trinkets are nifty, and they sort of "fit" with the Yule Lad handing them out.

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-12-22 16:30:30 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
T1 modules can also be npc drops


Actually, they can't.

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#37 - 2013-12-22 16:32:14 UTC
Have to say, I enjoy the gifts so far, and we're not at the end yet. The biggest hit so far in gifts seem to have been the festival launchers + snowballs (albeit many already had it) and the Fedo (my blogpost about the fedo gathered quite some attention, so people definately liked to know more about the Fedo's background & lore ingame)

Tbh, people whine each year about the gifts.... no matter how good or bad they are... So imo, CCP should just do what they like, and make the people happy who just enjoy getting free gifts. Remember, they're not required to hand out fgifts, and for a while they barely even did.

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-12-22 16:34:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
Lol
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.



Roll

You're obviously not in the business of producing Tech 2. This pretty much guts anyone who produces these items, making entire PI and POS chains obsolete due to the market suddenly flooding with goods.

It's CCP messing with the sandbox again. Now production has to worry if CCP will simply start spawning goods they produce. To make a PvP comparison, it's like that time they had an 'event' to help clear out all those alliance POS in Fountain with CCP spawned dreadnoughts and fleets.

I wonder which alliance they're helping this time?


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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-12-22 16:38:29 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.



Roll

You're obviously not in the business of producing Tech 2. This pretty much guts anyone who produces these items, making entire PI and POS chains obsolete due to the market suddenly flooding with goods.

It's CCP messing with the sandbox again. Now production has to worry if CCP will simply start spawning goods they produce. To make a PvP comparison, it's like that time they had an 'event' to help clear out all those alliance POS in Fountain with CCP spawned dreadnoughts and fleets.

I wonder which alliance they're helping this time?

I understand just fine what it means. However it's still pretty small potatoes. T2 data/relic analyzers and core/expanded probe launchers. Not worth getting very upset over. But it's worth getting CCP to recognize the issue, so I suppose you have a point.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Decian Cor
Stronghelm Corporation
Solyaris Chtonium
#40 - 2013-12-22 16:47:51 UTC
Go home, you're drunk.

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