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Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2013-12-22 11:31:39 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Sup.

There is no bug. Most of the players who die to this are the ones who go into a mission, drop drones, MTU and then go AFK. There is 'forcing' someone to enter a limited engagement. Green safety setting means you will do anything to cause yourself to be suspect and it is doing that. Now if you decide to set your drones to 'shoot anything that will not get me Concorded or flagged as suspect'... Guess what? They won't do any of that. But they will go for valid targets. Someone flagged as suspect is a valid target for anyone. That is the entire pint of the crime watch system.

And to make your noodle cook a bit more, there is even players putting on tin badges, forming a gang with other random high sec players. Behold, PvP. And for the first time, high sec players are enforcing the law instead of Concord having to jump in.

That is simply amazing.
Wait ... random people are going against clueless mission runners who go suspect?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-12-22 11:31:43 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye.


The irony in this post is making me hard.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2013-12-22 11:33:17 UTC
If you are still fearful then make sure you don't have a TCU or Depot deployed.

OR

Make sure your drones are not set to aggressive, because, you know they will be aggressive.

Sorry, but going AFK with drones out and a MTU so you can go watch a movie and farm ISK is not really great game play. And if this whole thing still burns your butt up. Go kill these jerks who are up to no good. Many are. Most of the time people refer to the as The Regulators.

Bad. Ass. Cool
Slave A00073078
Northern Raven Reconnaissance Syndicate
#64 - 2013-12-22 11:33:50 UTC
Dunno whether it's a bug or not, but it's damned funny. I mission to keep sec status up, so don't effect me one bit since I never loot.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-12-22 11:34:19 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Sup.

There is no bug. Most of the players who die to this are the ones who go into a mission, drop drones, MTU and then go AFK. There is 'forcing' someone to enter a limited engagement. Green safety setting means you will do anything to cause yourself to be suspect and it is doing that. Now if you decide to set your drones to 'shoot anything that will not get me Concorded or flagged as suspect'... Guess what? They won't do any of that. But they will go for valid targets. Someone flagged as suspect is a valid target for anyone. That is the entire pint of the crime watch system.

And to make your noodle cook a bit more, there is even players putting on tin badges, forming a gang with other random high sec players. Behold, PvP. And for the first time, high sec players are enforcing the law instead of Concord having to jump in.

That is simply amazing.
Wait ... random people are going against clueless mission runners who go suspect?


Apparently reading is really, really hard.

No, random people in highsec are forming gangs & attacking people who go suspect after shooting mobile structures is literally what was said.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-12-22 11:34:55 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Sup.

There is no bug. Most of the players who die to this are the ones who go into a mission, drop drones, MTU and then go AFK. There is 'forcing' someone to enter a limited engagement. Green safety setting means you will do anything to cause yourself to be suspect and it is doing that. Now if you decide to set your drones to 'shoot anything that will not get me Concorded or flagged as suspect'... Guess what? They won't do any of that. But they will go for valid targets. Someone flagged as suspect is a valid target for anyone. That is the entire pint of the crime watch system.

And to make your noodle cook a bit more, there is even players putting on tin badges, forming a gang with other random high sec players. Behold, PvP. And for the first time, high sec players are enforcing the law instead of Concord having to jump in.

That is simply amazing.
Wait ... random people are going against clueless mission runners who go suspect?

The mission runners are not going suspect. Randoms are hunting those who are preying on the mission runners.
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-12-22 11:35:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye.


The irony in this post is making me hard.
You should look up the definition. You people act like idiots. All I was saying it that it's a bug. **** me if I'm wrong, who cares? You do. I don't. It's as if somebody touched you wrongly and you all go crazy about this. So wow, a random internet stranger says it's a bug. Holy ****, I have wrecked your egos and I didn't actually do anything.
It doesn't matter, though. If people cry enough, CCP declares it an exploit and somehow fixes it. If not, then not.

I'm already curious about how many threads of whiners this will spawn.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-12-22 11:37:12 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye.


The irony in this post is making me hard.
You should look up the definition. You people act like idiots. All I was saying it that it's a bug. **** me if I'm wrong, who cares? You do. I don't. It's as if somebody touched you wrongly and you all go crazy about this. So wow, a random internet stranger says it's a bug. Holy ****, I have wrecked your egos and I didn't actually do anything.
It doesn't matter, though. If people cry enough, CCP declares it an exploit and somehow fixes it. If not, then not.

I'm already curious about how many threads of whiners this will spawn.


That is a lot of angry words over something you don't care about.

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Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-12-22 11:37:21 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Sup.

There is no bug. Most of the players who die to this are the ones who go into a mission, drop drones, MTU and then go AFK. There is 'forcing' someone to enter a limited engagement. Green safety setting means you will do anything to cause yourself to be suspect and it is doing that. Now if you decide to set your drones to 'shoot anything that will not get me Concorded or flagged as suspect'... Guess what? They won't do any of that. But they will go for valid targets. Someone flagged as suspect is a valid target for anyone. That is the entire pint of the crime watch system.

And to make your noodle cook a bit more, there is even players putting on tin badges, forming a gang with other random high sec players. Behold, PvP. And for the first time, high sec players are enforcing the law instead of Concord having to jump in.

That is simply amazing.
Wait ... random people are going against clueless mission runners who go suspect?


Apparently reading is really, really hard.

No, random people in highsec are forming gangs & attacking people who go suspect after shooting mobile structures is literally what was said.
Well, sometimes it is. Sometimes it isn't. You are flawless, right?

I noticed this happening. People coming after others who go suspect. I thought that was a single guy only and not common ...
That's actually nice!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2013-12-22 11:37:46 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye.


The irony in this post is making me hard.
You should look up the definition. You people act like idiots. All I was saying it that it's a bug. **** me if I'm wrong, who cares? You do. I don't. It's as if somebody touched you wrongly and you all go crazy about this. So wow, a random internet stranger says it's a bug. Holy ****, I have wrecked your egos and I didn't actually do anything.
It doesn't matter, though. If people cry enough, CCP declares it an exploit and somehow fixes it. If not, then not.

I'm already curious about how many threads of whiners this will spawn.

el oh el

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-12-22 11:38:49 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye.


The irony in this post is making me hard.
You should look up the definition. You people act like idiots. All I was saying it that it's a bug. **** me if I'm wrong, who cares? You do. I don't. It's as if somebody touched you wrongly and you all go crazy about this. So wow, a random internet stranger says it's a bug. Holy ****, I have wrecked your egos and I didn't actually do anything.
It doesn't matter, though. If people cry enough, CCP declares it an exploit and somehow fixes it. If not, then not.

I'm already curious about how many threads of whiners this will spawn.


That is a lot of angry words over something you don't care about.
What do I care about exactly?
Kate stark
#72 - 2013-12-22 11:39:29 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Apparently reading is really, really hard.

No, random people in highsec are forming gangs & attacking people who go suspect after shooting mobile structures is literally what was said.


with the language barrier the OP isn't exactly the clearest post on the forums. Even i mistook their meaning when i read it this morning.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-12-22 11:39:50 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
el oh el
You disagree? Don't you think that the more people know of this, the more use it and the more people will cry about it, which leads to CCP patching it?
Kate stark
#74 - 2013-12-22 11:40:50 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye.


The irony in this post is making me hard.
You should look up the definition. You people act like idiots. All I was saying it that it's a bug. **** me if I'm wrong, who cares? You do. I don't. It's as if somebody touched you wrongly and you all go crazy about this. So wow, a random internet stranger says it's a bug. Holy ****, I have wrecked your egos and I didn't actually do anything.
It doesn't matter, though. If people cry enough, CCP declares it an exploit and somehow fixes it. If not, then not.

I'm already curious about how many threads of whiners this will spawn.


That is a lot of angry words over something you don't care about.
What do I care about exactly?

dunno, *maybe* this topic since you keep posting in the thread.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-12-22 11:43:43 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
dunno, *maybe* this topic since you keep posting in the thread.
I'm not sure he knows either, so I thought I'll ask. Of course I do keep posting, they keep doing it too. :) I have five more minutes of time to kill!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2013-12-22 11:43:54 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
el oh el
You disagree? Don't you think that the more people know of this, the more use it and the more people will cry about it, which leads to CCP patching it?

That's more or less what we're trying to avoid.
CCP has a tendency of doing that when players with a conscience simply allow things to fester while the unwashed masses cry for their highsec justice from evil griefers.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2013-12-22 11:45:22 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Magna Mortem wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
el oh el
You disagree? Don't you think that the more people know of this, the more use it and the more people will cry about it, which leads to CCP patching it?

That's more or less what we're trying to avoid.
CCP has a tendency of doing that when players with a conscience simply allow things to fester while the unwashed masses cry for their highsec justice from evil griefers.
I don't see how it's avoidable ...
Kate stark
#78 - 2013-12-22 11:46:31 UTC
Magna Mortem wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
dunno, *maybe* this topic since you keep posting in the thread.
I'm not sure he knows either, so I thought I'll ask. Of course I do keep posting, they keep doing it too. :) I have five more minutes of time to kill!

"lol just trolling, lol" is not really saving much face when people know that you're mad.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#79 - 2013-12-22 11:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
I'm actually writing an article about all this and this new level of player interaction and such. I'll go into more detail, but one thing I saw in an ice belt made me smile. A couple ice miners used an Orca to swap to a couple of AFs, Kitsune and a Crow when one of there buddies in a mission had their MTU attacked by a player. What really helped was the warp speed changes. They were on that guy fast and saved the mission runner. The bad guy who went suspect had four warp core stabs fit and escaped. Coward. lol

Anyways, just another example of players filling in for law enforcement. One of the best additions to the game in a while in my opinion. Sure it is not leading headlines because it is not thousands of nerds in 10% TiDi, but it is pretty cool.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#80 - 2013-12-22 11:50:16 UTC
I would consider it a bug on the basis that drones shouldn't be attacking anyone when aggressive unless they attack me directly.

Also if they are set to guard another fleet member. The drones are guarding me when aggressive, not my assets.

I say this as a person that uses combat drones pretty rarely now as most cases my Paladin can one shot them or snipe them after MJD'ing out. Just in case anyone had the idea I was a butthurt rattlesnake pilot or something.

The Drake is a Lie