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[Service] Evequifax, reputation and credit report agency.
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Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#1 - 2013-12-20 05:39:51 UTC
Hello New Eden!

A friendly scammer pointed out this might make more sense in crime and punishment than sell orders!

I am here today to introduce my latest business venture, and a service that I hope you all come to know and love in the coming days.

Evequifax!

Evequifax endeavors to become New Eden’s premiere reputation and credit service.

We understand that in a galaxy full of clones identity can quite easily become an ambiguous thing, and you may not always know who you are doing business with. We aim to offer you tools that will assist you in making your business decisions, regardless if you simply wish to purchase from a reputable vendor, or hire employees that have an outstanding reputation.

The first of the tools that we will be introducing to the community is the Evequifax Total Personnel Security (TM) report. You can add any information of interest on any capsuleer free of charge to this exclusive datafile so that other interested parties will be armed with your knowledge of that specific individuals actions when making decisions.



How our service works:

Anyone can freely add information to any of our files on an individual capsuleer by simply sending me (Madri of Evequifax) an Eve mail in the following format:

Subject: Name of capsuleer being reported (must be a valid character)

Evemail Body: Add any details on the offense, commendation or comment that you wish to be included in our specially encrypted Evequifax file on any capsuleer in the body of the Evemail. This can be an event that occurred, such as a scam, hostile action, suspected clone (alt) affiliations, the results of a friendly business exchange, or really any information you would like to add to their file.

We do not discriminate on the content to be included in the capsuleer file. It is important to note however that we will only give a credible rating to information with supporting evidence. If you would like your submission to have a credible rating from us, please include a link to any relevant objective evidence with your submission.



Once we have received a submission the party being reported will be alerted and offered the opportunity to purchase the rights to respond to your addition. They will not however ever be offered the opportunity to remove your comments at any time for any reason.

Third Parties are always welcome to query our database. For a small fee we will provide you with the full contents of the file on any capsuleer once. In the future, once Evequifax has secured its place in the market we will be offering larger institutions and even individuals a very reasonably priced subscription plan with unlimited query ability to our database.


EVEQUIFAX

We are watching so you don't have to!
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#2 - 2013-12-20 12:42:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
So let me see if I understand this.....

Anyone can put up information about any player.
(Which seems to be through you via email. So I guess if its bad information about you or your friends, it will "go missing")

Then, a player has to pay you to respond to any allegations made against them.



Pretty much just Blackmail then.

Yeah, I can see this going well.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-12-20 12:46:12 UTC
This can in no way be a scam at all whatsoever.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2013-12-20 12:49:51 UTC
Let it be known, I am not a crook.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2013-12-20 13:17:27 UTC
Metatrolling fail.

Thank me later :D
Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#6 - 2013-12-20 14:17:57 UTC
Gentlemen,

I see you have some concerns about our service. I assure you that we are a legitimate unaffiliated corporation that intend to provide New Eden with something priceless, accountability.

Our fees will always be modest and fair, and are mainly in place to prevent spamming. We do however have to pay for the servers somehow and a business must be profitable to survive.

We have no friends, we are credit agents. We have no interest in manipulation of the data. All concerned persons are also invited to hire a publically trusted third party to audit our company. Their inspection personnel will be welcomed into our corporation with open arms.

Our goal is to provide a longer memory of anything noteworthy that occurs between capsuleers and provide that information to the community. I would encourage anyone to try the service before judgement, even if you would like to report on our own company or employees.

Fly safe New Eden!
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2013-12-20 14:22:26 UTC
Madri wrote:
Gentlemen,

I see you have some concerns about our service. I assure you that we are a legitimate unaffiliated corporation that intend to provide New Eden with something priceless, accountability.

Our fees will always be modest and fair, and are mainly in place to prevent spamming. We do however have to pay for the servers somehow and a business must be profitable to survive.

We have no friends, we are credit agents. We have no interest in manipulation of the data. All concerned persons are also invited to hire a publically trusted third party to audit our company. Their inspection personnel will be welcomed into our corporation with open arms.

Our goal is to provide a longer memory of anything noteworthy that occurs between capsuleers and provide that information to the community. I would encourage anyone to try the service before judgement, even if you would like to report on our own company or employees.

Fly safe New Eden!


... hire a public third party [that plays Eve Online] to join your Corporation as an independent auditor? They would no longer be "independent," would they?

Thank me later :D
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#8 - 2013-12-20 14:26:51 UTC
TL;DR go away

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#9 - 2013-12-20 14:32:23 UTC
There are trusted individuals who play. You are invited to hire someone trusted for this exact kind of service to provide an unbiased third party review.

We have nothing to hide and wish to provide this service for the whole community. We believe that our service will benefit everyone in New Eden.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-12-20 17:50:36 UTC
I fully support this product/service assuming all my credit scores are within the top 10% of players.

Will you release score disclosure graphs or a table of score distribution values for comparison against? How will you calculate scores?

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Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#11 - 2013-12-20 18:51:24 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
I fully support this product/service assuming all my credit scores are within the top 10% of players.

Will you release score disclosure graphs or a table of score distribution values for comparison against? How will you calculate scores?



I have not worked out all of the details yet but it has been planned from the beginning to include a public best and worst reputation scoreboard. I am hoping that this will eventually be a constantly updated automated process available for all to see.

Scoring is simple. A character with no reports has a score of 0, positive reports add 1 to your score, negative reports subtract 1 from your score. Only confirmed credible reports will count towards or against a capsuleers score.
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-12-20 19:31:15 UTC
Don Purple wrote:
Let it be known, I am not a crook.



this dude, without a doubt. has the best Avatar in New Eden.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#13 - 2013-12-21 20:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Adoulin
I have it on good authority that OP is horrible scammer who is controlled by the evil criminal mastermind known as Chribba.

Will be notifying Evequifax shortly.

Blink

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#14 - 2013-12-22 00:19:21 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
I have it on good authority that OP is horrible scammer who is controlled by the evil criminal mastermind known as Chribba.

Will be notifying Evequifax shortly.

Blink


In the spirit of the service you are fully invited to add whatever accusations you would like to my file.
Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-12-22 01:18:40 UTC
I fully support this product. Given the integrity and accuracy of real life credit reports, I can not imagine how this can be misused in a ethical or non-abusive manner.

Bombers Rule!!!
Clem Fandango
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-12-22 05:21:00 UTC
Madri wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
I fully support this product/service assuming all my credit scores are within the top 10% of players.

Will you release score disclosure graphs or a table of score distribution values for comparison against? How will you calculate scores?



I have not worked out all of the details yet but it has been planned from the beginning to include a public best and worst reputation scoreboard. I am hoping that this will eventually be a constantly updated automated process available for all to see.

Scoring is simple. A character with no reports has a score of 0, positive reports add 1 to your score, negative reports subtract 1 from your score. Only confirmed credible reports will count towards or against a capsuleers score.


So for every person I rip off I just need to make a documented transaction to an alt to get +1'd back to neutral? Sounds cool.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-12-22 07:25:51 UTC
What about people or actions which one person would consider positive and another person would consider negative? As an example, what if I crush a corp of douchecanoes and the canoes in question think I'm a bad man for it but those who have dealt with said canoes applaud me for it?

What's to prevent me from using my friends to game the system?

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#18 - 2013-12-22 08:28:00 UTC
Clem Fandango wrote:
Madri wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
I fully support this product/service assuming all my credit scores are within the top 10% of players.

Will you release score disclosure graphs or a table of score distribution values for comparison against? How will you calculate scores?



I have not worked out all of the details yet but it has been planned from the beginning to include a public best and worst reputation scoreboard. I am hoping that this will eventually be a constantly updated automated process available for all to see.

Scoring is simple. A character with no reports has a score of 0, positive reports add 1 to your score, negative reports subtract 1 from your score. Only confirmed credible reports will count towards or against a capsuleers score.


So for every person I rip off I just need to make a documented transaction to an alt to get +1'd back to neutral? Sounds cool.



No, you need to provide objective evidence to move a score in either direction. Your alt is not objective or evidence. But you are more than welcome to use your alts to talk about yourself to our database as much as you feel the need to. ^^
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#19 - 2013-12-22 12:29:12 UTC
Do you make subjective judgements about the information you recieve, or do you just catalogue everything sent to you? For example, if I was to report that the character named GeneralCowboy was a shameless code-violator who mines AFK without a permit, would that be given equal weight with somebody saying that H3donism Bot is a suicide ganker? What if I scam somebody but afterwards they call me a racial slur in chat? Which is worse? How do you categorize these things?

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Madri
Siren's Sqaull
#20 - 2013-12-22 17:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Madri
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Do you make subjective judgements about the information you recieve, or do you just catalogue everything sent to you? For example, if I was to report that the character named GeneralCowboy was a shameless code-violator who mines AFK without a permit, would that be given equal weight with somebody saying that H3donism Bot is a suicide ganker? What if I scam somebody but afterwards they call me a racial slur in chat? Which is worse? How do you categorize these things?


The answer is we don't. There are no subjective judgements made in regards to what is put in a capsuleers file. We at Evequifax understand that everyone has a perspective and that even outlaws can be mistreated. If you have a complaint or compliment about a capsuleer file it! It might help other capsuleers make decisions about that person down the road.

It is also important to distinguish that only reports with actual credible objective evidence will be weighed in a scoring fashion. So even though we will file anything on your behalf and it will stay in their file for all to read, it may not affect their score.

Edit:

I forgot to mention that eventually there will be a list of categories that you will be able to file your report under. So you, the capsuleer will essentially be able to choose the category of the offense or comment and provide evidence supporting your claims if you want it to actually affect their score.

In many cases I expect that due to the nature of New Eden, there will not actually be objective evidence available, but we will do our best to develop new methods to help people provide evidence.
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