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Got a Tengu, need help for a good setup

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Dandrenn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-12-22 01:38:48 UTC
Hi. I'm looking for a tengu setup that i can use for level 4 PvE missions in caldari space. It seems I'm usually fighting Guristas pirates as well. I can use T2 Hams and heavies as well as tech 2 shield modules. I have caldari offensive 5, others at 4.



My current theoretical set-up is:

[High-Slots]
8x HAM launcher II

[Med-Slots]
Gistum C-Type Med Booster
Caldari Navy Boost Amp
Thermic Diss Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Phased weapon nav array gen I

[Low-Slots]
1x BCU II
3x Cal Navy BCU

Rigs
Med Warhead Flare Cat I
Med Warhead Rigor Cat I
Med bay Loading Acc I

Subsystems
Acc Eject bay
fuel catalyst
dissolution sequencer
aug cap reseviour
amp node

I get 873 DPS with 656 DPS against Guristas and can move at 526 m/s with the afterburner.

The potential issue is that the cap only lasts 2m 57 seconds and the missile range is 22km. Thoughts and suggestions on a tengu fit or this one?
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#2 - 2013-12-22 01:51:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
You should get a fitting tool like pyfa or EFT. Then you can hurdle around with what actually fits on your ship and what doesn't. Alternatively, some sites like battleclinic got very decent pve-fits (buried below horrid ones though), just don't blindly take one of the poorly rated ones ;)

Edit: Example-Tengu
Dandrenn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-12-22 02:03:09 UTC
I have EveHQ as a fitting tool and have checked out battleclinic. I was wondering if that fitting would work with it's short capacitor ability and short missile range and if others had ideas on their own. I appreciate the suggestion though.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#4 - 2013-12-22 02:32:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
624 tank against guristas, cap stable, 1000+ dps with rage and 5% implants. You may want to swap 1 of T2 rigors to T1 and change Bay Thruster to T2 for more range.

[Tengu, Mission Hamgu]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

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Dandrenn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-12-22 03:40:58 UTC
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
624 tank against guristas, cap stable, 1000+ dps with rage and 5% implants. You may want to swap 1 of T2 rigors to T1 and change Bay Thruster to T2 for more range.

[Tengu, Mission Hamgu]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


Impressive fit with the implants! I'll have to skill up another week or so in order to fully take advantage of the fit but with that setup i get HAM's at 30km and about 650 m/s speed at 1014 DPS (at all level V)
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#6 - 2013-12-22 11:19:14 UTC
Damage application isn't really the main problem you'll run to in missions, it's range. You really want more range rigs and definitely T2 them. Also T3s are up for a rebalance and signs point to the Tengu offensive sub getting a nerf, so you might find your ship severely gimped in the near-ish future.
Dandrenn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-12-22 17:34:58 UTC
Didn't the T3's get a nerf when heavy missiles got nerfed?
Boomhaur
#8 - 2013-12-22 22:22:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Boomhaur
Dandrenn wrote:
Didn't the T3's get a nerf when heavy missiles got nerfed?


Nerf/boost from what I recall. I don't recall the specifics anymore but dps went down but your sig didn't get blown up using some of the T2 missiles which meant more speed tank.

Don't bother using HAMs for lv4's the range is crap. Just use a T2 bay loading accelerator and 2x t1 flares, a normal t1 bay loading accel does almost nothing due to stacking penalties.

HAM's are bad because you waste time (and thus dps) getting into range to use them.

[Tengu, Quick build 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

10MN Afterburner II
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Explosive Deflection Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Or use 2x T2 Rigors, 1x T2 Flare. Swap resist amps to what your fighting against, could also combine it with core augmentation 1 &2 and other implants so you easily fit hardeners or 1-2 more caldair BCU's for fitting issues.

Oh and train up your skills to at least 3 for the hull and the overheating specific skills, they are a great aset in a T3 when you bite off more than you can chew as you can overheat for a long time in a T3 thanks to it's bonus. I know in my Tengu which uses a small shield overheating will generally cost me less than 10k in repairs with how long I use it, so I use it in place of the ASB or a buying a better shield booster as a pithi-c is able to control almost everything without worry as long as I don't draw full room aggro. So your gistum c medium will just provide a lot more cushion when overheated if you do something stupid.

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