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Prejudicial and unfair sale of PLEX/Subscription digital items.
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#21 - 2013-12-20 09:09:12 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
Wait there are people who don't PLEX their accounts Shocked.

Anyway that is what $3 by US standards. So that is not one but 2 whole cheeseburgers off the dollar menu, it be 3 if he finds some change due to tax. That's big money. I say we burn Jita in protest over this Roll.


Unfortunately, in my place it's not even one burger.

However, OP has a point.

And does Amazon indeed buy and pay for these before reselling. I somehow doubt it.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#22 - 2013-12-20 09:10:34 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
Amazon is doing the sale, and what you are doing is fraud.


Uuuhhh sounds dangerous. Doesn't it need a victim to be a fraud?
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#23 - 2013-12-20 09:10:44 UTC
Fellhahn wrote:
EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country.

Big business and patents keep back the development of medicine against a many serious illnesses, ranging from AIDS to cancer, screwing millions of people out of medicine because they don't have the money to please the fat hoarders of this world. Your problems with local pricing are quite marginal to be honest. You did some groceries but the other store had the items cheaper. Baaaaaaw.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#24 - 2013-12-20 09:11:20 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Software and digital items are not the one price world wide. Even the "official Microsoft" price for Microsoft Office can be three or four times more expensive in one country compared to somewhere else.


Correct & I hate it.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#25 - 2013-12-20 09:12:56 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Fellhahn wrote:
EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country.

Big business and patents keep back the development of medicine against a many serious illnesses, ranging from AIDS to cancer, screwing millions of people out of medicine because they don't have the money to please the fat hoarders of this world. Your problems with local pricing are quite marginal to be honest. You did some groceries but the other store had the items cheaper. Baaaaaaw.


Please explain in detail how they're doing that.
Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-12-20 09:14:50 UTC
embrel wrote:
Boomhaur wrote:
Wait there are people who don't PLEX their accounts Shocked.

Anyway that is what $3 by US standards. So that is not one but 2 whole cheeseburgers off the dollar menu, it be 3 if he finds some change due to tax. That's big money. I say we burn Jita in protest over this Roll.


Unfortunately, in my place it's not even one burger.

However, OP has a point.

And does Amazon indeed buy and pay for these before reselling. I somehow doubt it.

tinfoil hat to 5 for this guy...

Amazon buys them in bulk and therefore gets a huge discount on them (same thing with microsoft points and memberships and etc) which means they can sell 10 at regular price or sell even more at a lower price and make less of a profit per item but sell more item and with digital things its as simple as sending a code out

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#27 - 2013-12-20 09:50:05 UTC
embrel wrote:
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Fellhahn wrote:
EvE is a global DIGITAL product and should not be subject to prejudicial pricing based on country.

Big business and patents keep back the development of medicine against a many serious illnesses, ranging from AIDS to cancer, screwing millions of people out of medicine because they don't have the money to please the fat hoarders of this world. Your problems with local pricing are quite marginal to be honest. You did some groceries but the other store had the items cheaper. Baaaaaaw.


Please explain in detail how they're doing that.

You make more money keeping a patient sick and on drugs that surpresses a disease for his entire life.
You make far less money if you give the patient the cure, which is a one shot deal.

The world is run on economics and not goodwill...sadly

...
Mr Pragmatic
#28 - 2013-12-20 09:54:26 UTC
Grrrr, those Chinese get their plex even CHEAPER! Not FAIR! I demand we institute Chinese style of gov't so we TOO can have cheap plex.

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Ultrique
The Hellsing Institute
#29 - 2013-12-20 11:14:02 UTC
Actually you can use it to your advantage...
If you pay in GBP (as it currently shows on the plex page) it's 6 plex for 90 GBP, if I purchase this in Australia (where I am now) that currently converts to about 160 AUD... if you buy the 6 plex from amazon currently it's about 90 USD, converts to roughly 110 AUD... that's a BIG difference!
As to purchasing it... easy enough you get a mate in the US you know and trust to purchase it and transfer the cash via wire transfer.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#30 - 2013-12-20 11:19:53 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Software and digital items are not the one price world wide. Even the "official Microsoft" price for Microsoft Office can be three or four times more expensive in one country compared to somewhere else.
Fortunately the 'unofficial' price is the same worldwide.

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#31 - 2013-12-20 11:23:47 UTC
Ha ha, just tried this to confirm it, and got a glimpse of our wonderful future.

"Link your Amazon account with a new or existing EVE Online account so that you can purchase virtual items and upgrades on Amazon.com and send them directly to your account"

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-12-20 11:26:40 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Ha ha, just tried this to confirm it, and got a glimpse of our wonderful future.

"Link your Amazon account with a new or existing EVE Online account so that you can purchase virtual items and upgrades on Amazon.com and send them directly to your account"

wtf? lol CCCCCC PPPP PPEEEE :)

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Ultrique
The Hellsing Institute
#33 - 2013-12-20 11:29:01 UTC
Just had a chat with Amazon sales, pointed out the cost difference and made a bit of a moan and I am being put in touch with the team that deals with such issues... thin glimmer of no hope but will see if my skepticism can be proven wrong. Should anything good come of it I shall post back for you all to enjoy in the spoils :)
Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-12-20 16:52:58 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
In these wonderful United States of America, we experience 365 days of freedom, democracy, and being American. If you would like to know more about how to enjoy the benefits of being American and not needing to circumvent your autocratic regimes to sample our fine wares on our fine websites based in our fine webhosting bunkers run by companies that enjoy both freedom and democracy, I would suggest visiting your local United States of America consulate.

That or, maybe, you know...understanding that Amazon.co.uk or amazon.whatevercountrythatisntamericahahahayoudumbschmuck you use can do the same sales if they want to, its a third party site doing the sales.


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Silent Vale
LinkNet
#35 - 2013-12-20 17:07:48 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:


The world is run on economics and not goodwill...sadly


Actually its run on thermodynamics

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#36 - 2013-12-20 17:11:23 UTC
I'm with you, OP. Just last week I went to a store and bought a box of cereal for $3. I felt the sting of prejudice as soon as I checked another store which was selling the exact same box of cereal for a mere $2.50.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#37 - 2013-12-20 17:23:24 UTC
Us Americuns are speshul. Didn't u get the memo?

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Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-12-20 19:44:33 UTC
That's a really small discount. It's much nicer when they offer 50% off and so. Not to mention the really good dollar vs euro (and GBP) exchange rates.

Let them keep their localized sales. We can get around it and there's no way we'd get the same level of reduction if they brought these to amazon.co.uk or what not.
Ultrique
The Hellsing Institute
#39 - 2013-12-20 22:41:57 UTC
Well Amazons response was...

Due to US Import/Export laws... which I shot down immediately unless somehow every other country in the world is on the EAR export banned list now.

Then had the response of License agreement with the company so I have a question for CCP.

Have CCP placed a license restriction with Amazon US to restrict them from selling your goods outside of the US?
Which would be odd considering it's probably an Import to the US in the first place.
Bobby Frutt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-12-20 22:44:58 UTC
Awww look at all the tough guys in this thread. Let's just pile on the OP. You guys have so much integrity, damn.
Okay, now watch how a proper human being replies:

OP, you cannot expect CCP to match the sales offered by third-party retailers. One of the major reasons Amazon buys PLEX in bulk is to get it at the reduced price. If CCP were to price-match them every time they offer PLEX at a reduced price, Amazon would stop buying PLEX from them. What would be the point, when no customers would have an incentive to buy from them?
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