Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Collision avoidance is a great idea too, but damage for collisions is a must so that we can end the 0 damage bumping tactics which are an embarrassment by their sheer stupidity to Eve Online. The local machines can handle the computational work, instead of the servers.

Where an object appears to be on a collision course, if the collision safety is switched on, the ship will simply change direction to least amount possible to minimize the collision speed. Larger ships may opt to leave the system off knowing that the impact of smaller ships will not affect them much damage wise and will result in the popping of the smaller ship.

The warp mechanic can include a little change to remove all points for dropping out of warp which result in a collision, if the system is on. The system could have a toggle for being engaged for warp, for normal movement, for neither, or for both.

The damage may encourage battleships "bowling" or ramming, but with their lower speeds it would not be as effective.

Maybe CCP has thought of this like they have thought of poses, which subject is still getting flogged for the longest time, but perhaps they don't realize how much this mechanic hurts their game in sheer stupidity. Computers have evolved enough to handle these calculations quite easily and it is about time for damage from collisions. Intentionally ramming a ship should have substantial consequences on both sides.

The lamest mechanic in Eve, as far I am concerned, is 0 damage ship bumping. It is time for this stupid mechanic to end. When a frigate hits a Titan at full speed, it should look like a bug hitting the windshield of a train: splat. The frigate pops and the Titan has a scratch on the paint job.

Already a thread on collision damage so let's talk about conservation of momentum; momentum before = momentum after or p1=p2, where p=mv; momentum equals mass times velocity
[Archiving: Collisions should involve damage to the colliding ships. A frigate hits a battleship at 3km/s straight on and bounces off, both the frigate and the battleship should incur 3k damage to kinetic damage. A collision of the same ships at 300 m/s should yield 300 damage to each. The damage calculation could take into account the masses and changes in velocities of each object involved in the collision. Since it gets a little complicated in high sec with Concording, kill rights, and pve ganking, etc, collisions in high sec could continue to have 0 damage for players without aggression. Also, collisions with asteroids, stargates, and stations can continue to have zero damage until mechanics are put into place to avoid warping inside a station or avoiding collisions with stationary, non-combat objects.]

The change in velocity of an object must follow the conservation of momentum. m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v3 + m2v4 when v4=0 becomes change in v1 = m2/m1 * v2 which is to say that if all of ship B's momentum is transferred to ship A and ship B ends at rest then ship A changes its velocity only by the ratio of masses of Ship B divided by Ship A times the initial velocity of Ship B.

You're still asking CCP to add more strain to the servers. Servers which already have problems keeping up with their current load.

Want to us elogic? Then your argument fails compeltely. A frigate is much larger than a naglfar class projectile. And moves far faster since it can go to near relativistic speeds when exist and enterign warp stil on grid.

Udner these circuynstances a frigate exiting warp upon a capital ship should blow it up completely.

That or the capital ship weapons should be unable to hurt a capital ship.

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Eve implements the basic physics of a a collision. Do the math yourself. Its pretty much what we have in game that you would get when the object are not supported by attrition on a surface .

Warp is moving through warped space, not through normal space. The ship isn't moving faster, it is just moving through a shorter distance (having warped the space). Collisions should be impossible until after it exits warp and is traveling still at normal speeds but now through normal, unwarped space. But since we already have a thread for collision damage, I'll refer further discussion of that to that link.