EVE General Discussion

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one the search light and the Coaxial gun, do not make the base of the tank asymetric, as I said the specialised equipment should not be takern in account, I like the Radar on the Scorpion, but that is a symetric ship in my eyes, even though there aren't radars on both side.

as on wether or not things are symetric in design or not, I find you a bit hazy there.

at one point you mention that not bothering to look cool makes it symetric and on the other point you mention it takes extra effort.

I think you can bring it down to the following, if it moves (not only because of aerondynamics,) mass production, easy acces "Base Symetry" (not counting lights, radars, ect) is preferred. Cargo movers Ships, Trucks gain extra options by being able to be loaded and unloaded from both sides. once you enter mass production it's cost effective even or large buildings.

again this is a game so not everything needs to be done as in the real world though non capital ships in EVE could be counting as moving and mass production.

The Crow looks like a frigging limp goose.
The Merlin class should replace the Condor class for the Interceptor role IMO.
The Merlin class hull looks like they would be capable of zooming after you with foam dripping from his mouth while while the Condor class hull looks like it woke up with a case of "bad-hull" day - or forgot to give the right of way at the last Stargate crossing.

I'm against remodeling for symmetry and aerodynamics (they're as practical and useful to you in 25th and 1/2 century as a bag of doorknobs) - however please remodel while keeping in mind the role that ship has to fill.

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NOT THE DOMINIX DON'T TOUCH THE DOMINIX DON'T YOU DARE GO NEAR THE DOMINIX

I'd say:

- Rupture
- Typhoon

They still have very old Minmatar models, which means blocky hulls and spiky antennae. I'd like them to keep their general shape and certain nice details such as the Typhoon's double prow command bridge, but both could use some remodelling. Obviusly some more polygons and new textures on the models, but also, for example:
- Little radiator wings (such as the Hurricane's).
- Typhoon's auxiliary engine block could be located below/on top of it, rather than on its left side... Picture it for a moment, it could look nice. I personally can picture it as a semivertical missile ship composed of 2 large cilindrical/hexagonal-section parts.
- On both of them, I wonder how a 'floating hull' could look like. Something like this (I mean: secondary plates separed from the main hull by empty space); I personally find it fitting with their armor oriented tank.

The following ones are less important for me; just throwing wild ideas into the mix...

- Dominix: I'd give it a hammerhead look on its prow. It does have those little ears and a protuding 'forehead'; what about increasing those parts' size? It would refresh its look without changing it too much.
- Loki: why all T3's are 'longitudinal' ships? Aren't Minmatar fond on vertical ships? What about giving the Loki a vertical look?
- Proteus: and the Proteus becoming a 'flying wing' ship?

Personally speaking as a player, I'd like to see a unique hull for the Bhaalgorn and the Rattlesnake.

Moar bloodraider style ships plx!

KTHXBYE :)

No, that is not true. We are not talking about minor parts; we're talking about the structure/superstructure. "Natural" has nothing to do with engineering.

Small parts like machine guns or night sights on a tank won't be symmetrical, but the overall hull form of the tank will be.. because it is equally likely to need to engage targets on either side.

No one puts a second device on the other side for artistic symmetry, but only semantic pedants would point that out. Devices that need to be on both sides for full coverage (for example, point defense emplacements) will be.



Buildings do not move. Objects that need to move and fight are symmetrical because it is easier to design propulsion and arrange weapons and sensor coverage that way.

It doesn't matter how big ships in EVE are; there is no arbitrary size where asymmetry becomes the norm.

Furthermore, no one is talking about making every tiny bit symmetrical, either in EVE or in real life. It's about the overall hull form. Remember that aircraft carrier? it's lower hull IS symmetrical to make it pass through water more easily and with less complex design.

Britain had asymmetrical battleships in WWI. Some battleships had main battery turrets on the sides, and some were offset fore and aft so that they could (theoretically) fire a full broadside. It didn't work. Eventually the idea was abandoned and in-line turrets like the U.S. used became the norm. Look up the Neptune and Colossus class ships.

Aysmmetry without a specific reason is ******* STUPID.

PLEASE remodel the Archon. The engines look so out of place and just stuck on.

LOL, almost fell out my chair when I saw this. It's spot on!