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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2013-12-18 17:08:08 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Join an NPC corp. They are special corps CCP made for people who don't enjoy wardecs.

On that note CCP should actually increase the negatives associated with hiding out in NPC corps, or running to them as a war avoidance mechanism...

- Increase NPC corp tax rates to 50% as a good start. You can hide in there forever mr. carebear, but it sure will cost you -- ideally much more than it would to fit a series of T1 frigates and losing them repeatedly learning how to pew under a dec instead...

- Put people leaving a corp that is under wardec into a one week stasis period before they can actually leave.

Do these things for fairness, to keep EvE what it should be and improve it.

Above all, do it for the children.



Maybe should start a campaign. Put videos and pictures of cute Kittens in the internet and threaten to kill one every time someone jumps from a corp in war.

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NickSuccorso
Canadian Bacon.
Honorable Third Party
#62 - 2013-12-18 17:15:24 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Join an NPC corp. They are special corps CCP made for people who don't enjoy wardecs.

On that note CCP should actually increase the negatives associated with hiding out in NPC corps, or running to them as a war avoidance mechanism...

- Increase NPC corp tax rates to 50% as a good start. You can hide in there forever mr. carebear, but it sure will cost you -- ideally much more than it would to fit a series of T1 frigates and losing them repeatedly learning how to pew under a dec instead...

- Put people leaving a corp that is under wardec into a one week stasis period before they can actually leave.

Do these things for fairness, to keep EvE what it should be and improve it.

Above all, do it for the children.


50% would be funny, 25% would be fair. So how about 35%?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#63 - 2013-12-18 17:17:18 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:


Do these things for fairness, to keep EvE what it should be and improve it.



Go hug a tree, hippy

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#64 - 2013-12-18 17:50:49 UTC
Xaak Arji wrote:
Why is this game so F***ing elitist? It's so stupid that I cannot exclude myself from a war decc. Makes me so angry it makes my experience with Eve a total piece of S***. Millions lost because I can't just be left the hell alone, yet still have some sense of community and guys to run PvE. As a new player I can not get ahead because every time I join a corp, some ass hole f***ing thinks it's funny to blow my s*** up in a stupid ass war. Seriously. Rant over.


^^

This, class, is what we call "drunken trolling." It is often mistaken for Carebear Tears at a glance, but when ingested it lacks the characteristic sweet yet succulent flavor of tears, and is also useless for fueling spaceships.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#65 - 2013-12-18 18:07:28 UTC
Go ahead and raise the tax to 50%. I like being war dec immune.

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#66 - 2013-12-18 18:33:31 UTC
Simple. Devs want you to spend $$$ on PLEX to compensate your losses.
Garric Blackk
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-12-18 18:39:58 UTC
These posts bring joy to my life stuck in a cubicle at work everyday.

Thank you.
CCP Falcon
#68 - 2013-12-18 18:51:56 UTC
Purity by Fire wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
War is the fuel that keeps the gears of New Eden's economy turning.

Without stuff being blown up, and without people blowing stuff up, the demand for new hardware would plummet, and the economy would grind to a halt.

While it sucks to lose stuff, that's life in New Eden due to the hypercapitalistic, conflict fueled society that we all live in.

My best advice as an 11 year veteran of EVE?

Learn to shoot back.



Jeeze Falcon have you been on the tripple Expresso's this morning.


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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2013-12-18 18:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Hook Line and Sinker. Good Catch OP.

You people do know he is in an Alliance that Wardecs other corps right? And as a result gets wardecced as well.

EDIT:
However after looking at his loss. I actually think this guys is not joking and crying for real.

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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2013-12-18 19:05:51 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Hook Line and Sinker. Good Catch OP.

You people do know he is in an Alliance that Wardecs other corps right? And as a result gets wardecced as well.

EDIT:
However after looking at his loss. I actually think this guys is not joking and crying for real.


but it is general tsao.. so.. lets face it they are a bit of a joke
Mr Pragmatic
#71 - 2013-12-18 19:41:40 UTC
It'll be alright. There are plenty of corps and alliances that never seen war decs in years. Just join one of those.

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Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#72 - 2013-12-18 20:25:22 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Purity by Fire wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
War is the fuel that keeps the gears of New Eden's economy turning.

Without stuff being blown up, and without people blowing stuff up, the demand for new hardware would plummet, and the economy would grind to a halt.

While it sucks to lose stuff, that's life in New Eden due to the hypercapitalistic, conflict fueled society that we all live in.

My best advice as an 11 year veteran of EVE?

Learn to shoot back.



Jeeze Falcon have you been on the tripple Expresso's this morning.


I don't drink coffee, only delicious tea! Big smile



I initially misread that as delicious tears.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-12-18 21:12:05 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Its better for these people if the game pushed them into real corps.

I would increase NPC tax rate a LOT but based on character age. Example. Your tax start at 0 and increase by 10% per month. Up to something like 50%.

When you create a corp, the startign minimal tax (Taht does nto go to the corp wallet) be around 25%. And htat tax reduced by 1% per member in the corp.


Not really. People play the game certain ways because that is the gameplay that appeals to them. This idea that you can force people to play differently and they're going to be happier for it is pretty half baked and ridiculous in a ame like EVE that presents you with near infinite ways to play when you're logged in.

I mean, you are literally saying "this game has infinite approaches to gameplay and having been presented with this wealth of options people have chosen wrongly and I want to force them to play differently because they will have more fun!". That's ridiculous.

TL;DR - maybe you should take up mining mate, you'd be happier.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-12-18 21:15:32 UTC
Lady Naween wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Hook Line and Sinker. Good Catch OP.

You people do know he is in an Alliance that Wardecs other corps right? And as a result gets wardecced as well.

EDIT:
However after looking at his loss. I actually think this guys is not joking and crying for real.


but it is general tsao.. so.. lets face it they are a bit of a joke


One upon a time we shared a system with them and this isn't surprising to see coming from one of their members. They're a PVP focused group but they'd also recruit people they ganked of they showed any interest in PVP regardless of their skill level or experience. If I were to guess this is one of those newer recruits who hasn't yet wrapped his head around "cold harsh universe" an all that.
Savnire Jacitu
Abysmal Gentlemen
#75 - 2013-12-18 21:39:06 UTC
Time to be that ass hole
Rekon X
Doomheim
#76 - 2013-12-18 21:55:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Rekon X
Better to stay in the rookie corp for a while, but to late for that.

If your corp is wardeced and they have no intention of grouping up and fighting back in some way, then it's probably time to leave.

Check out eve university or brave newbies for corps. Or go back to the npc corp for a while.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#77 - 2013-12-18 22:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
4 pages... well done.

I'm looking at OP corp history and kill board and can't for the life of me think about what this dude has been doing for the last 8 months. Ship spinning? No pvp, only a 0.9 sec status so not ratting. Trade and industry? Seems fishy to me.

I don't think an April 2013 character is too young to be in a BS. Fit was not the worst I've seen. But not great either. No rigs and derping around during a war-dec. Hmm... insurance fraud perhaps?

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Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2013-12-18 22:03:58 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Purity by Fire wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
War is the fuel that keeps the gears of New Eden's economy turning.

Without stuff being blown up, and without people blowing stuff up, the demand for new hardware would plummet, and the economy would grind to a halt.

While it sucks to lose stuff, that's life in New Eden due to the hypercapitalistic, conflict fueled society that we all live in.

My best advice as an 11 year veteran of EVE?

Learn to shoot back.



Jeeze Falcon have you been on the tripple Expresso's this morning.


I don't drink coffee, only delicious tea! Big smile




I hope its something like Yorkshire Gold Rwandan Tea or twinnings breakfast tea. Not any of these mamby pamby fruit teas. Hard in your face strong tea and YOU BETTER BE USING A TEA POT (omfg domi tea pot). Make sure the pot is warmed first though as this could have horrible effects on your brew Lol.

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-12-18 22:06:48 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
War is the fuel that keeps the gears of New Eden's economy turning.

Without stuff being blown up, and without people blowing stuff up, the demand for new hardware would plummet, and the economy would grind to a halt.

While it sucks to lose stuff, that's life in New Eden due to the hypercapitalistic, conflict fueled society that we all live in.

My best advice as an 11 year veteran of EVE?

Learn to shoot back.


This should be sticky on the newbs forum... and maybe even on the front page of eveonline.com. Thumbs up!
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#80 - 2013-12-18 22:09:13 UTC
I think Ive read terms such as "the blood lust of PvPers" and similar stuff at least a dozen times today


Don't carebears have a lust to keep their insides on the inside?



If not, why not

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann