EVE General Discussion

Why is this game so F***ing elitist? It's so stupid that I cannot exclude myself from a war decc. Makes me so angry it makes my experience with Eve a total piece of S***. Millions lost because I can't just be left the hell alone, yet still have some sense of community and guys to run PvE. As a new player I can not get ahead because every time I join a corp, some ass hole f***ing thinks it's funny to blow my s*** up in a stupid ass war. Seriously. Rant over.

Somewhat agree - Its your own fault if you don't watch your six and get owned.

I do however think the WarDec mech is dumb. It is pointless in Null & Low, it's not a catalyst for PvP in High and does not create content outside of a bunch is chicken-s#!t wardeckers that pick on easy targets and run away when something with teeth shows up.

But you still have no excuse for getting owned...

Give me 500milj and you can join my corp, no more wars..

You can exclude yourself from a war dec, you leave the corp for the duration and join an NPC one.

You want the sense of community, well find a corp or alliance that has a channel to keep that community while in an NPC corp to avoid war decs. When you talk about community, what do you mean, do you mean doing PvE together, or chat, if its chat then a channel works great. Sit back and ask yourself, how often do you do thing with others in game.

Never ever make rant posts like this, there are some people who will add you to their war dec list because you cried, sad, but that is Eve.

Some things you can do to reduce the impact of war decs if you want to stay in hisec and operate, though it has risks, you create other mission areas for you, grind up the standings with another faction away from the current area you operate in, so that should you get war dec'd by someone who operates in Caldari space they will hardly bother you when you are 30 jumps away, though some will hunt you down.

Looking at your recent losses indicates to me that you are getting there with working out how to fit your ships, so it looks like you are either working that out yourself or someone with a bit of knowledge is helping you.

The thing about Eve is that it is very difficult to get ahead, there is always someone who wants to knock you down no matter how old or good you are, the question is can you deal with it or buckle under it?

A problem for many people but as ccp hates you nothing will be done about it ,but there are ways to help your self ie when the 24hr period before the war starts use that time to move your mission running stuff to a more out of the way area and off the normal trade routes as these are where many war decers are likely to hang out. Also you could work on a neutral alt to allow yourself to continue your chosen profession whilst at war. If that is not help full just join a null sec corp get rich and and have a lot of fun making others spill lots of yummy tears.

You indeed get a 24 hour notice before the war starts... plenty of time to leave corp, I don't see what the problem is (IF the OP was being serious, which I'm sure he wasn't unless he's some ignorant little foul-mouthed kid)

This. It takes a hell of a lot of dedication to fight a long term war in W-space.

Welcome to Eve Online.

Once you get a basic understanding of how things work, it will all make sense and you will find it easier to avoid being killed...most of the time.

Stick at it and do not quit.

Padon? You meant to say 'a f***ing pyramid scam' right?


You can. Stay in an NPC corp.


If it truly makes you angry then this might not be the healthiest game for you to play.


The 'sense of community' is easily broken with strictly-PVE-players once they start dying like flies... because none of them has a clue about PVP. If you want to be 'left alone' become a hardline pirate, join a group in deep nullsec or whatever, because that luxury doesn't come without sacrifices. PVE groups have a sense of cameraderie as long as their wallets go up, but know little loyalty to their corp when the going gets tough.


I hope you realize that outside of hisec, the mechanics work in such ways that you are practicly at war with everybody... at any and all times. As a new player you would 'get ahead' much faster if you got into a PVP group. There is no getting ahead in PVE anyway because a threadmill simply does not go anywhere.

War is the fuel that keeps the gears of New Eden's economy turning.

Without stuff being blown up, and without people blowing stuff up, the demand for new hardware would plummet, and the economy would grind to a halt.

While it sucks to lose stuff, that's life in New Eden due to the hypercapitalistic, conflict fueled society that we all live in.

My best advice as an 11 year veteran of EVE?

Learn to shoot back.