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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#61 - 2013-12-17 21:30:36 UTC
45thtiger 0109 wrote:
icedragon2072 wrote:
The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?



DuSt 514 on PC would be better than console thats what I believe should had happen from the start.

But ps4 umm no thanks.

I tried DuSt 514 once and I will never go back.

I am a dedicated EvE player not a dedicated DuSt 514 Player.

Thats my two cents worth Big smile


You can always tell when somebody knows they are saying something stupid when they end everything with "just my two cents".

Realistically what you're saying is "Here is something incredibly stupid, now please dont verbally punch me in the throat."
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#62 - 2013-12-17 21:31:10 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Explanations don't require manners, last I checked.



Everything requires manners

Otherwise you are just a rude little ****

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2013-12-17 21:48:52 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Explanations don't require manners, last I checked.



Everything requires manners

Otherwise you are just a rude little ****


It was an explanation. There were no manners, there was no lack of manners. Explanations are indifferent, ie. not polite or impolite. Do you understand? No one writes a report, or an essay, or a literature review, with manners in mind, because manners are irrelevant when it comes to presenting facts and arguments. That is, presenting them with bad manners is just as irrelevant as presenting them with good ones.

And I don't really care what you think of me personally. That's also irrelevant.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#64 - 2013-12-17 21:52:30 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


And I don't really care what you think of me personally. That's also irrelevant.


Good show

I wouldn't expect you to considering your overwhelming arrogance

And ridiculous ignorance

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2013-12-17 21:54:57 UTC
Think of the whining when all the console kiddies get scammed out of their isk.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-12-17 21:59:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


And I don't really care what you think of me personally. That's also irrelevant.


I missed the point, was wrong, and can't admit it, now I'm trying to save face by attempting to insult and hurt the feelings of the person that that's responsible for calling me out instead of making a valid argument.


This is called prescriptive retaliation. It's also called "you are not making a relevant point regarding EVE on consoles." All you're trying to do is dig at my character.

The irony is not lost on me when you call me arrogant, Ramona.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#67 - 2013-12-17 22:06:21 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


The irony is not lost on me when you call me arrogant, Ramona.


You mean my hypocrisy, don't you?

The irony is that I already made it clear that I agree with you in regards to the utter worthlessness of consoles in regards to playing a game like EvE on due to limitations of graphical hardware and shallow-minded developers and publishing houses.

But the initial issue was you said you didnt want to play EvE on a joypad


And it was pointed out that consoles have had mice and keyboards since 1999


And yet you still powered through with "yes but my main point stands"


Without even recognising that your issue with control systems was flawed and wrong


And then proceeded to say that manners dont count for squat in the real world


And thats not correct, your statement supporting it was arrogant and shallow, which I called you on

And here we are


Your move, sweet cheeks

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-12-17 22:37:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Ramona McCandless wrote:



But the initial issue was you said you didnt want to play EvE on a joypad



This was never my issue. This was never my point. I never complained about this. The reason I never complained about this was because the point that even next-gen console hardware is outdated by any given PC supersedes any reasoning regarding peripherals like gaming controllers. You can get all the same peripherals on PS that you can get on a PC, and visa versa, which makes that particular variable completely irrelevant.

I never had an issue with control systems to be flawed and wrong, so if that's what you're sniping at me for, then you are missing your intended target. You might want to go back and find out who had this particular problem with playing EVE on a gamepad, and throw your tantrum at them, because even though I would never play EVE on a gamepad, I don't have a problem with it being made compatible for one. You can do that on PC.

I have a problem with it being ported to console and stagnating on proprietary hardware. That is all.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-12-18 20:56:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Digital Messiah
Remiel Pollard wrote:
icedragon2072 wrote:
The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?


This idea is everything that's wrong with consoles. All this can lead to is the watering-down of a great game. I don't care if you think the PS4 can handle it, what happens to it then if it gets ported? In its life, EVE has experienced many graphics and sound upgrades that it will stop getting if it winds up stagnating on hardware that cannot be upgraded, modified or swapped out.

I enjoy consoles as much as the next guy, but some games aren't meant for consoles. EVE is one of them.


This is why they will never do it. Not because the system couldn't handle it consoles have the ability to run everything under the sun far better than a computer with lower hardware requirement. The reason being is driver and code optimization. It is a lot harder to optimize games for the pc because there is so much hardware it has to be compatible with. They could run eve on the ps4 at max graphical capacity for the next 3 - 5 major graphical updates. The problem all in all with this is putting the resources forth to actually do this. I think it would've been more profitable for eve than dust 514. But if you look at other mmo's it isn't what is holding the playerbase numbers back. And console kids don't flock to games with this high a learning curve.

Something clever
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2013-12-18 22:07:19 UTC
Console gamer = "I bees teh awesome after one day of game play and can max level mah toon after just one week"


Eve gamer = " "your toon is only 4 years old ??? ... that must really suck being so low skilled"
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-12-18 22:10:10 UTC
I think eve should focus on the steam box, we need to let sony, and microsoft die.

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Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2013-12-18 22:14:12 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
icedragon2072 wrote:
The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?

Possible sure.
Functional, maybe.

But why?

Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.




Whoa whoa... my Rig is Over £2000+ Lol

Oh Dear god why did I spend so much X


shesh you even paid that expensive british money. It must be something special, or you bought alienware...

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#73 - 2013-12-18 22:22:24 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


This was never my issue.


kk, so you made a point that had nothing to do with what you quoted


cool

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#74 - 2013-12-18 22:31:49 UTC
Kris Xavier wrote:
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
icedragon2072 wrote:
The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?

Possible sure.
Functional, maybe.

But why?

Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.


Yes i have an expensive gaming rig, but not for eve.

I currently run eve on a Core 2 duo, Win xp, GT630, 4gb ram, running 2 x 22" 1680x1050 and yes usally have graphics turned right down and im scrolled out, but if i want to, i can turn them right up, use one screen and play on near max settings and enjoy some graphics ****.

You do not need to spend much money on a pc to play eve.


I skimmed it so fast i thought you had a 630 in your gaming rig and i had to re read it a few times properly...

._. herpa derpa

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The Zetin Sunn
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-12-19 00:45:42 UTC
James Nikolas Tesla wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
icedragon2072 wrote:
The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?

Possible sure.
Functional, maybe.

But why?

Because not all of us have access to $1,000+ gaming rigs.


Learn to build a PC, its easier than lego (no actually) and you'll be dualboxing like a pro for much less than the PS4 costs.
Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#76 - 2013-12-19 03:22:28 UTC
Auric Varangian wrote:
Logan Revelore wrote:
Kryptik Kai wrote:
Ambassador Crane wrote:

Frankly, it's bad enough Dust is only on PS3 and at present they have not announced any plans to make it available on PC, much to the current Eve community's disapproval. Why would they put Eve on PS4?


Well, Dust flopped, why not watch EVE flop on console.

I mean... does anyone really see the typical console player having the patience required for this game?


QFT.


Charming to see PC owners bash console owners. I never understood that animosity, perhaps it stems from beeing insecure? I own a PC (for gaming and some work) and a PS3 for gaming. Some segments of the console owners don't have the patience for EVE and others do, and this is, of course, also the case with people who only own a PC. Since the PS4 works like a charm with KB/M, runs much like a PC (no more cell) the only problem I see is the consoles capacity concerning future updates of EVE's graphic engine. But again...this is also the case with all the PC people with older machines. If the investment to port, and continually support, EVE is moderate then perhaps CCP should look into it.

Also, this is my first post, where is the cake?


Not bashing anyone, I just doubt that 95% of the console population has the patience for a game like EVE.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#77 - 2013-12-19 04:38:50 UTC
Logan Revelore wrote:
Not bashing anyone, I just doubt that 95% of the console population has the patience for a game like EVE.

Hardly saying much considering the same is probably true of the PC gaming population.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Bobinu
Unsober
Last Picks
#78 - 2013-12-19 08:53:13 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
This is like asking for Starcraft on the Nintendo 64.


Can I have Starcraft on my N64..pleeeeease!
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2013-12-19 11:45:39 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


This was never my issue.


kk, so you made a point that had nothing to do with what you quoted


cool


Wrong. I was explaining why the argument quoted was irrelevant.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#80 - 2013-12-19 12:00:30 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
icedragon2072 wrote:
The gaming system could handle it..and we've already seen ccp and sony get thier serves together..ps4 client possible?

Possible sure.
Functional, maybe.

But why?


I'm to poor to afford a computer. Better downgrade

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, When your terror comes like a storm, And your destruction comes like a whirlwind, When distress and anguish come upon you.   Proverbs 1:26-27