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Wanting to live in a C5, but a bit scared...
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Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#1 - 2011-11-21 06:03:24 UTC
So my character is about 68mill sp, I can fly a perfect carrier, and by perfect I mean fighters/bombers and carrier and jump operation ALL 5 and etc.... I was thinking about moving into a C5 WH, and using a dread/carrier to do the sleeper sites.... I heard you can siege the dread and just have another ship TP and Web the target while having decent tank and you can kill the BS's. So I was thinking either me in a dread and an Alt or friend duo'ing them.... Would it be possible? It would also be mainly me doing all the work of keeping the PoS up and such. My corps a 0.0 alliance and needs me for MOM service and ive grown on them so leaving corp for a WH corp isnt an option. I noticed I got a Rev to have 5k cap stable tank, I ALSO got an Archon to have 5k tank... The dread obviously has more dps, would require webs and etc, but the carrier would probly also require atleast a BS to help tank and kill stuff. So basically I solo C3's and Im looking to step up my game, Ive got the money for it, Im just curious if I could do it by myself with atmost ONE alt that is a sub cap pilot... Im pretty sure the carrier cant solo the sites on its on reguardless of my perfect MOM skills. I really am excited to try out a c5 and kinda do them myselves in a cap ship, as well I would be looking at all the profit myself.... Which is REALLY nice lol... Question is.... Is it possible? I know itll be rather difficult... But the juice just might be worth the squeeze... This is a decision i just cant make on my own and need some of you wormhole experts.... Ive read quite a few guides and know about escalations and such, I only play to bring in my one cap, and just do more sites screw escalating, since Im by myself... Help me out here D:
Mart Allini
Lead Farmers
#2 - 2011-11-21 09:37:47 UTC
I know its possible to run c5 sleeper sites with a solo dreadnaught because I've seen it happen. It involved setting up a warpin far away from the ship spawn so that tracking wouldn't be an issue I think. I then proceeded to blow up said dreadnaught with my corpmates. Thats the problem with solo capitals in these sites, is they will die as soon as someone comes across your WH. Now I didn't talk to that dread pilot much, so maybe he made so much money that losing the ship occasionally was worth it, but just bear that in mind. If you solo with a capital in a c5, you will eventually lose it.
Destroperuk
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#3 - 2011-11-21 14:56:07 UTC
Michelle elly wrote:
Ive read quite a few guides and know about escalations and such, I only play to bring in my one cap, and just do more sites screw escalating


You don't get a choice on whether to escalate or not when you warp a capital into a C5/C6 combat site. It will escalate and you will die.

Also, this solo dread strat I'm hearing about - I'm having a hard time believing it, and in any case it won't work in Crucible because of the removal of dread drone bays. This basically means you will die a slow, painful death to cruisers and frigates.
nathaniela Shahni
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
#4 - 2011-11-21 15:47:11 UTC
You want to move into a WH alone?
Even are able to do c5 sites(which i don't belive)
you loosing 24 BS loot from every Site.
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#5 - 2011-11-21 17:44:11 UTC
I mean to send in onecap and escalate it only once... I know I'll pronoun lose the cap, but if I can make 600mill a site atleast and insure my cap ship, its worth the bargan rights... To make good isk in thisis game, you Hota take risks... The vgger the RAM, the more isk you'll make Lol... Besides this sounds Trully exciting
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#6 - 2011-11-21 17:46:49 UTC
Sorry for my typos my phone likes to think it can read my mind lol
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#7 - 2011-11-21 20:41:20 UTC
Is really like some input from someone else who uses or used a cap for a c5
nathaniela Shahni
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
#8 - 2011-11-21 20:52:38 UTC
We use
one Triage Carriers for Reps
some Battleships for Damage
and Escalate With Dreads and Maybe other Carriers.
I think its Possible to do in a Tengu and a Triage Carrier, but it takes Ages.
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#9 - 2011-11-21 22:22:21 UTC
What about duo dread siege with carrier, saw it on YouTube seemed pretty cool and it worked, they had trouble tanking it a little but they managed
nathaniela Shahni
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
#10 - 2011-11-21 22:46:53 UTC
Link?
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#11 - 2011-11-21 22:50:51 UTC
I googled WH stuff and found it can't remember the link it was a morose and arching tho... and they did have a scorpion come in for a split second
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#12 - 2011-11-22 04:04:56 UTC
Was hoping I'd have more input from the community :[
Arik VanClaw
The Emet Corporation
#13 - 2011-11-22 05:21:04 UTC
Found a couple guys double cap escalating sites in a C5 in Revelation Dreadnaughts So to answer your question yes it can be done. I'm not entirely sure on the specifics of how as I don't fly rev's, but they were fit like so:

http://bfwar.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10472127


That being said, as someone pointed out it'll take a woefully long time and don't forget after you park your Dread you have to go back and salavage/loot to make any money.

If you want to solo sites stick to C3's or down and leave the cap ship in the POS. If you wanna run C5's join a corp.

My corp is recruiting but we do a fair bit of PVP and require pilots to be on comms and active in the corp, not sure how that suits your playstyle. Obligatory recruitment thread link below:

Firebird Squadron - A REAL Wormhole corporation - Class 5 Action!
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#14 - 2011-11-22 05:36:58 UTC
Id love to but i made a deal with a devil to keep my SC as long as I remain corp.... I was doing C3's solo, but I buy alot of faction stuff and I need higher income, felt like doing C3's in my 1.5bill legion was REALLY fun, but so scarey when people would come mess with me... Atleast C5's have less traffic than a C3 does nowadays
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#15 - 2011-11-22 06:38:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Michelle elly
WHAT ABOUT, using a carrier for a C4? would a carrier be able to do C4's? doubt it but hey thought Id ask....

Or maybe with atleast one decent fit BS... Nothing flashy but like a mael or something?
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-22 14:53:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon Azrakel
Destroperuk wrote:
Michelle elly wrote:
Ive read quite a few guides and know about escalations and such, I only play to bring in my one cap, and just do more sites screw escalating


You don't get a choice on whether to escalate or not when you warp a capital into a C5/C6 combat site. It will escalate and you will die.

Also, this solo dread strat I'm hearing about - I'm having a hard time believing it, and in any case it won't work in Crucible because of the removal of dread drone bays. This basically means you will die a slow, painful death to cruisers and frigates.


You used to be able to do it; I nearly did it once in a trimarked dread, ran out of cap (was rather new there and had not yet changed my dread's rigs from my 0.0 fit to the fit on it now) and had to have a triage carrier and subcap fleet save meOops

You would have to spend a fuckton (officer capacitor modules) to do it now, given that each sleeper neuts the equivalent of 1.5 heavy neuts. I would suggest not doing this. Unless you want to be a proper loot pinata...

Michelle elly wrote:
WHAT ABOUT, using a carrier for a C4? would a carrier be able to do C4's? doubt it but hey thought Id ask....

Or maybe with atleast one decent fit BS... Nothing flashy but like a mael or something?


Easily, just watch out for your drones (Hint: Sentries, screw fighters, they kinda suck). However, getting that carrier in and out of that C4, well...
Lady Go Diveher
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-22 17:38:43 UTC
A carrier in a C4 works fine. It's probably the most efficient use of a single cap. A C4 will not escalate, so you'll not lose it to sleepers.

I used to do these with a Thanatos and 2 armour Lokis.

Assign fighters to the webbing / TP lokis and you can apply the fighter DPS just fine to the BSes and cruisers. The loki's sort out the frigates quick enough on their own.

Never ever do this without a cloaked Falcon, ready to jam the living crap out of anything that tries a tackle. Mass cripple (third stage) all wormholes leading in and out and you're reasonably safe.

You'll need to build it inside the WH, and it cannot leave. Self destructing it gets you 200mil and change back in insurance.
Michelle elly
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#18 - 2011-11-22 20:20:14 UTC
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
A carrier in a C4 works fine. It's probably the most efficient use of a single cap. A C4 will not escalate, so you'll not lose it to sleepers.

I used to do these with a Thanatos and 2 armour Lokis.

Assign fighters to the webbing / TP lokis and you can apply the fighter DPS just fine to the BSes and cruisers. The loki's sort out the frigates quick enough on their own.

Never ever do this without a cloaked Falcon, ready to jam the living crap out of anything that tries a tackle. Mass cripple (third stage) all wormholes leading in and out and you're reasonably safe.

You'll need to build it inside the WH, and it cannot leave. Self destructing it gets you 200mil and change back in insurance.



I was under the impression it does escalate and you didnt have to build it inside... It all sounded great till I read you have to build it inside X.x.... Plans ruined... I think Ill just go live in a C3 WH again tbh... I really wish I could make some more income other than that but.... Its looking pretty undoable till I atleast have a friend or alt that can fly a dread along side my carrier
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-11-22 20:29:08 UTC
Michelle elly wrote:
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
A carrier in a C4 works fine. It's probably the most efficient use of a single cap. A C4 will not escalate, so you'll not lose it to sleepers.

I used to do these with a Thanatos and 2 armour Lokis.

Assign fighters to the webbing / TP lokis and you can apply the fighter DPS just fine to the BSes and cruisers. The loki's sort out the frigates quick enough on their own.

Never ever do this without a cloaked Falcon, ready to jam the living crap out of anything that tries a tackle. Mass cripple (third stage) all wormholes leading in and out and you're reasonably safe.

You'll need to build it inside the WH, and it cannot leave. Self destructing it gets you 200mil and change back in insurance.



I was under the impression it does escalate and you didnt have to build it inside... It all sounded great till I read you have to build it inside X.x.... Plans ruined... I think Ill just go live in a C3 WH again tbh... I really wish I could make some more income other than that but.... Its looking pretty undoable till I atleast have a friend or alt that can fly a dread along side my carrier



If you want more income move into a C2 or C4 with a static C3 to farm
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-23 01:49:59 UTC
Mate, join a WH corp.
WHs are NOT a solo friendly environment.
They are soloable sure, can run even C6s with 3 accounts if you know what youre doing but WH life is hostile in every aspect from logistics, to probing, to PVE and the inevitable PVP.

Would highly recommend finding a WH corp to join, ESPECIALLY for a player new to WHs.

On a related note, several corps in My alliance are recruiting if youre interested.

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