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Ship Mastery - Drones
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Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#41 - 2013-12-17 01:38:23 UTC
This OP has my support. As primarily an Amarr player, my own drones are useless and I'm opposed to stuffing my ships with Gallente tech - my sworn enemy - under any circumstances. As far as I'm concerned, it shouldn't be recommended that I train Gallente anything to Level V, much less mastery of Amarr ships.

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Lewai
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-12-17 03:36:58 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Gotta have it all golden! Damn you CCP!


I honestly read that as "Gotta catch em' all! Pokemon!"

I have no idea why :S
Dirk Massive
D.O.O.M.
#43 - 2013-12-17 05:05:49 UTC
My take on this Mastery Achievement thing is it's for folks who have OCD. It don't matter unless you in your head think it matters. Then it's a never ending nightmare your most likely never going to achieve well enough to ever be happy with.

**Bringing WAR and TERROR to a system near you.... **
Josef Djugashvilis
#44 - 2013-12-17 05:06:05 UTC
Mascha Tzash wrote:
As far as I got the mastery system, it is just a guide to become better at this specific ship. If you feel fine with your skillset, then you don't have to train any further into that ships mastery.

Or do you just want that golden, shiny icon on that ship?


Yes ma'am, I surely do.

Sad, I know, but that is how it is for some of us.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-12-17 07:17:09 UTC
Tippia wrote:
“Mastery” in the current system means exactly that. If your ship can sport drones, you haven't really mastered it if you haven't mastered drones, now have you? Blink

Its not the inclusion of drones Tippia, his exact reasoning was, if you are required to master the RACIAL skills for that hull, such as guns/ship, why is the drones skills standalone in requiring you to learn the universal set for mastery?

hes saying, for a ship primarily aimed as a drone boat, its okay for all 4 races, but for a ship that is primarily a gun/missile boat, you should only need the drone skills relevant to their race, since they dotn focus on drones in that hull anyways.

it hoenstly bothered me when i saw it, simply because it WAS inconsistent, and added a needless and out of the way hurdle for a hull that doesnt have a single bonus or spec for drones other than a bay/bandwidth for like 1 drone.
Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-12-17 10:38:35 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Mascha Tzash wrote:
As far as I got the mastery system, it is just a guide to become better at this specific ship. If you feel fine with your skillset, then you don't have to train any further into that ships mastery.

Or do you just want that golden, shiny icon on that ship?


Yes ma'am, I surely do.

Sad, I know, but that is how it is for some of us.


I'm definetly part of your "some of us" group. Blink
All I can tell you by now is that is looks good on my shuttles. Lol

Its a long way for me to go too to get that pretty golden icon onto my Mymidon. The skill plan tells me something around july/august next year. Till then something else will surely come along the road.
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#47 - 2013-12-17 11:47:38 UTC
I was looking at mastery levels on pirate ships the other day, it might have been updated since but when i looked racial hullsize wasnt in the mastery. For example you can have level 5 vindi mastery with minny and gallente bs both at 3.
Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-12-17 12:28:18 UTC
Xylem Viliana wrote:
I was looking at mastery levels on pirate ships the other day, it might have been updated since but when i looked racial hullsize wasnt in the mastery. For example you can have level 5 vindi mastery with minny and gallente bs both at 3.


The only reason I can imagine is that the skills to fly that ship (lets say it's the Vindi) are the prerequisities and the other skills (those in the masteries) improove the ships performance beyond those skills.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#49 - 2013-12-17 16:58:53 UTC
Dring Dingle wrote:

And if you're a Lore junkie.... how does it make sense to be say, an amarrian recruit who hates all inferior races... but is told to specialize in the enemies technology ..... xD


No less sense than the most technologically advanced race using the statistically worst weapons for their primary turrets.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Julianne Duhann Erata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-12-18 00:47:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
“Mastery” in the current system means exactly that. If your ship can sport drones, you haven't really mastered it if you haven't mastered drones, now have you? Blink



Drones on a Tengu .... Come on...
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-12-18 01:19:31 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Tippia wrote:
“Mastery” in the current system means exactly that. If your ship can sport drones, you haven't really mastered it if you haven't mastered drones, now have you? Blink

Its not the inclusion of drones Tippia, his exact reasoning was, if you are required to master the RACIAL skills for that hull, such as guns/ship, why is the drones skills standalone in requiring you to learn the universal set for mastery?

hes saying, for a ship primarily aimed as a drone boat, its okay for all 4 races, but for a ship that is primarily a gun/missile boat, you should only need the drone skills relevant to their race, since they dotn focus on drones in that hull anyways.

it hoenstly bothered me when i saw it, simply because it WAS inconsistent, and added a needless and out of the way hurdle for a hull that doesnt have a single bonus or spec for drones other than a bay/bandwidth for like 1 drone.

Except that for drones there are no similar racial preferences depending on the ship you fly, so Minmatar drone spec is no more or less relevant for a Omen than it is a Caracal or Rupture. Conversely, since the ships have a drone bay which could be occupied by combat drones all the combat drone skills could be relevant.
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