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So.

The ship is either:
1· rotating slowly
2· swaying a few degrees each way
3· perfectly stationary

The camera is either:
A· rotating slowly
B· bobbing
C· perfectly stationary


I can be pedantic about the little things so I support this thread. :D

I liked the ship slowly spinning but I think the other opinions here make good sense. I was hoping that if they nuked the slow spin, which they did, it would be replaced by the slow camera spinning, which it wasn't.

I like the camera bobbing and ship swaying. Something that is breathing basically, that tells me the world is there, a little alive. The ship doesn't even sway now, fair enough due to some points made above, but bringing back the slowly rotating camera (if the player doesn't control it) would be nice.


But lol, this thread. It makes me feel better to see other people so focused on the trivialities.

I disagree that this issue is a "triviality".

This is a usability issue, and needs to be resolved. Imagine the wall or whatever you have behind your computer monitor slowly bobbing up and down and side to side. You may be able to ignore it, or you may not. However you definitely have to agree that it is unnecessary and annoying.

The ship bobbing and swaying on its docking perch was quite enough to convey the sense of a 'moving, breathing world'. When you got tired of it you could always zoom out or hide it behind some window.

You can't zoom out of or hide what we currently have on SISI.

All good points to both. Ok give me swaying ship, optional slow rotating camera. I'd really like that camera.


Better yet, get the fitting music from Star Control 2 to play on cue when you open the fittings window in the hangar. Amirite?

Reopened my bug report yesterday afternoon, no response yet.

Basicaly what we are asking for is that the ship behaviour in hangar is similar to how it was before Incarna, where the ship is pointing in a fixed direction and not rotating around it's own axis like it does outside the balcony in CQ (this has been fixed now). What's missing at the moment is that the ship is now sitting perfectly still while it was previously bobbing/swaying slowly, a bit like a ship on the ocean. This gave a good visual impression of the ship hovering over the docking pad compared to it being perfectly still and "dead" looking.

In addition to this, CCP have coded in some bobbing/swaying in the camera (similar to the camera behaviour in space) wich is annoying people. Reason why this might not be a good idea in the hangar even though it works in space is the much higher level of detail in the station environment compared to the dark backdrop of space, causing some to experience a feeling similar to being mildly sea sick.

Also, a feature that Xenial wants is an optional setting in the Esc-menu to bring back a camera behaviour that was available before the Trinity expansion. Where the camera, when not interacted with, would slowly orbit the ship inside the hangar (basicaly a slow ship spinning feature where no interaction is needed). I believe it was removed due to not being used by very many players. I only used it occationaly to get some variation when spending long time in station. It is not something I personaly would be very hyped about returning, but I would rather have that as an optional setting compared to the ship rotating in the hangar wich just looked silly and pointless (wich was the reason behind starting this thread in the first place). Wether or not there is a lot of coding involved in putting such a camera behaviour back in the game I don't know. It is not something I would prioritize, but apparently someone would like it and it is a subject I've seen been brought up a coupple of times before. Imoprtant part is that such a camera behaviour would absolutely have to be optional (and was so originaly) since it would definately annoy a lot more players then it would please if it went live as default.

As for importance of it all... A great deal of players spend rather long times in station and subsequently spend a long time looking at their ships in the hangar... If we learned anything from the Incarna expansion, the in-hangar view (and ship spinning) means a lot to a great deal of players and it seemed people were happy with the ship/hangar/camera behaviour the way it was before Incarna (if it ain't broke why fix it?), and returning things to they way they were shouldn't be very hard since there shouldn't be a need to write new code for it, unless for optimizations and such.

Also... since the hangar environment obviously means as much to so many as we've seen this summer, then I predict a threadnaught in GD over the bobbing/swaying camera and non-bobbing/swaying ship if it goes live like this

Ships should never self spin. it shows intelligence.