Player Features and Ideas Discussion

See title - I think this is the best way to get people into null sec overall. If they stay in high sec until they're ready to go to null a lot won't go to null.

Having spoken to a few people recently who have never been to null, and getting answers like "as soon as you jump into null you instantly get kill" its no wonder people avoid going there.

I think one of the reasons such misinformation is spread around is the choke points, if there's a gate camp at a chokepoint and you jump into null yes you die and likely don't go back again, if the first system you jumped into was insta-death then imagine how bad the other systems deeper in must be...

My solutions are this:

On entry into a system you spawn within a 50km bubble rather than a 15 kilometre bubble.

Reasoning:

Spawning within 15 kilometres puts you in range of every bit of tackle possible.
If there's a gate camp then unless you're advanced (covert cloak, MWD trick) its way to easy for you to die.
Additionally most interceptors can point you out to 30 to 60km.
T2 large bubbles have 45km? range.
An Arazu can get a point out to 100 km.
Interceptors can warp out of bubbles and arrive at the gate before anything that jumped in can escape.
There are plenty of options that we have now that we didn't have when EVE was released which at the time made 15km okay. The 15km is outdated.

The other side of the gate can remain the same. And no I haven't been caught at a gate lately it just seems a little outdated and probably a good reason that many are believing they will die instantly the moment they enter null.

another way would be to add more entry points into null, making it less likely to run into a choke.

I think the problem is that too many times people will try getting into nullsec from a highsec system, like jumping from Orvolle into PF. Is that ever actually a good idea? I can't think of a time.

Lowsec entry points are much better, if you can survive the passage. Something about "lowsec residents kill everything that moves so that they can complain about having nothing to kill".

Education - and in the early days, a bit of support - is the best way to get people into nullsec and have them stay there. It's not for everyone, but I think nullsec does have more of a "deathtrap" reputation than it deserves.

regional gates already spawn you a big distance away. And getting new players into null has more to do with corps willing to recruit and support them than it has to do with changing travel mechanics.

Research is the key to everything in eve.
I run through low and null most days solo just traveling. I know my route options. i know who camps where. i know the best time of day to travel. I just use small ships but almost never cloaky. It is rare to run into options and 95% of those can be solved with gate crashing and reroute.
Finding a decent pvp corp that i willing to train newer players is also key.
Convincing people that half the time it is actually hard to find ships to shoot at you in null is the hardest bit to get new players to believe. Mostly they are more scared of you than you are of them.

So who do you do that.

If YOU can take a system with 40 people, think how many 40 man groups we can put up at once?

It largely depends where you are trying to enter 0.0 space. Plenty of spots that are not guarded at all. Anyone can do little research on those entrances while cruising in high sec. Just keep an eye on players in space, ships destroyed and pod kills. It will not give you info on spot but if you monitor several entraces for few days you get picture where is best spot to enter.

I do agree that there is great deal of misinformation about 0.0 and even a bit about low sec. But I belive that misinformation is about dangers that come with those sectors. You will lose ships but it is not nearly as dangerous place as I was let to belive when I was newbie player.

PS: Personally I have experienced bit different new players. Players who think about shiny battleship and train only for that since day one because battleships are... cool? (in newbie eyes). Aaand since we all know that solo battleship in low or 0.0 is easy target while doing PvE, that newbie with new battleship is sitting in high sec, grinding missions.

Why are we trying to get more people into Null when we all know Sov is a broken mechanic?

Yes agreed. It creates a 100km sphere of usable space around a stargate as opposed to the current 30km sphere which is tiny. And while a competent camp will still be able to tackle and kill you at 50km, the pyschological factor that you won't necessarily be landing point blank into a camp is an big improvement.

The reason is EVE tutorials are basically missions. Even if they are dedicated to industry or "explo", they are still missions. Newcomer quickly realizes that there will be no free ships once tutorial is completed. So they need an income before doing anything else. And since all he knows is missions, he needs that BS for L4s, and that takes time, and time makes habits...
I think it's something along these lines rather often...