EVE General Discussion

You must not have been around when those kinds of fights would crash the whole server, where even a fight of a couple of hundred would do in Tranquility.

And the best defense against nodes crashing is not to have these massive battles, but we all know THAT won't happen. Players blame CCP for the crashes, when it's the nature of the players themselves that is causing it. Sure, people say it's CCPs fault because they designed the game this way, but still comes down to the players choosing whether or not to do it.

And the fun fights happen with fewer people, when you don't really know if you're going to win or not. These spam fests that happen now days are boring. You know who wins by who brings the most ships.

This is the age of the capital as declared by Pandemic Legion where two sides can battle titanically for 8 hours and only a handful of ships die. Idk I guess

One day they'll wise up and actually make it detrimental to dogpile your enemy. Until then don't expect different results from doing the same thing.

I cringed.

no

there's a limit to how large you need to be, because above some amount the server will not handle it. so there's no need to match some group that has 10,000 pilots because they can't even cram half of that into a system. In fact, being able to put about 2000+ will keep you safe as an equal 2000 will be already making the best reinforced and tidied server suffer.

if it's a surprise and there's no reinforced node the bar is much lower, however you really want to be able to reach the bar for the most important fights on stations etc. Like a 6vdt event, about 4700 combined...

With about 500 archons and 200 supercarriers and 50 titans (add a hundred or so interceptors) you should be good to defend against 10000 blobbers.

Case in point: If there 100 Abaddons on field, that Deimos fleet would have wiped.

Numbers > tactics.

Smaller fights are obviously better. In very large fights disregarding lag, ships really cannot handle getting primaried and the along with the lag they melt since by the time you realize armor / shields are dropping and RR is applied its usually going to be too late unless you're in a capital.

One solution to make people blob less or at least not assign all their damage to one target is to use diminishing returns based on damage.

This can also be applied to POS but the general idea is at a certain point when a ships shields or armor is taking damage, some of that energy is utilized by the ship to repair itself. At low levels, perhaps a dozen ships worth of damage that energy is negligible, perhaps providing 2% repair boosts but as the level rises the % rises.

So assigning 500 drones to one person and shooting one ship while everyone sits around would likely do 51% damage and 49% repair boost while assigning 50 drones would do 98% in damage and only 2% would be taken as energy to boost repairs.

Actually the developers thought of it (Capacitor Batteries reflecting energy back at the aggressor), in this case instead of reflecting energy, hardeners could absorb excess energy instead and increase their resists or something.

The doctrine of bringing as many ships and firing at one person would not be as effective and the drone assist / slow cat / reinforce a region full of POS in a few hours would no longer be the only tactic that works.

well in theory the group with the 10k people could strike at 5 systems simultaniously while the one with 2k can only engange them in one.
But luckly its all about the one climatic battle in one system at a time

It's an experience in its own. Tidi sucks and sometimes the large fights aren't all that fun (often they are, though) but in the end it's still pretty cool to be a part of something that actually has broader-reaching implications for the game.