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Command Ships too slow

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Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
#1 - 2013-12-09 14:37:47 UTC
Command Ships are far too slow to perform in small gangs. I would actually enjoy using them rather than leaving them off-grid for fights. That or give me some sort of cruiser version that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
Obunagawe
#2 - 2013-12-14 16:24:04 UTC
You do know T1 BC can use ganglinks, if you're THAT poor.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
#3 - 2013-12-14 16:45:27 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
You do know T1 BC can use ganglinks, if you're THAT poor.


You know nothing carebear
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#4 - 2013-12-14 18:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
T3s are smaller and faster. They don't cost that much, although they're less effective than a Command Ship.

Anyway, Command Ships are based on Battlecruisers and you don't seem to be complaining about how fast [i]those[i/] are. Basically you want Command Ships to be faster than the T1 hull they're based on when speed isn't even part of their role.

Maybe you should just accept it and put a microwarp and a nano or two on.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
#5 - 2013-12-15 13:22:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Teufel
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
T3s are smaller and faster. They don't cost that much, although they're less effective than a Command Ship.

Anyway, Command Ships are based on Battlecruisers and you don't seem to be complaining about how fast [i]those[i/] are. Basically you want Command Ships to be faster than the T1 hull they're based on when speed isn't even part of their role.

Maybe you should just accept it and put a microwarp and a nano or two on.


I disagree, The command ships have a specific role and that is to provide bonuses on field. It should be the all around best option to provide these bonuses in all fleet doctrines. the most i can get from a command ship is 1500m/s on average and that isn't enough from a roaming kiting gang. They do need a buffing to be used in more situations. I just refuse to waste a character to sit off-grid doing nothing.
Obunagawe
#6 - 2013-12-15 21:30:12 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
You do know T1 BC can use ganglinks, if you're THAT poor.


You know nothing carebear


I know better than to make whine threads demanding changes to benefit myself.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
#7 - 2013-12-15 21:42:38 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
Red Teufel wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
You do know T1 BC can use ganglinks, if you're THAT poor.


You know nothing carebear


I know better than to make whine threads demanding changes to benefit myself.


Its like you are complaining about complaining now. the carebear is strong in this one.
Obunagawe
#8 - 2013-12-15 21:55:45 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
Red Teufel wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
You do know T1 BC can use ganglinks, if you're THAT poor.


You know nothing carebear


I know better than to make whine threads demanding changes to benefit myself.


Its like you are complaining about complaining now. the carebear is strong in this one.


It's like you're complaining about complaining about complaining with a bit of ad hominem thrown in for good measure.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
#9 - 2013-12-15 22:15:30 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
Red Teufel wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
Red Teufel wrote:
Obunagawe wrote:
You do know T1 BC can use ganglinks, if you're THAT poor.


You know nothing carebear


I know better than to make whine threads demanding changes to benefit myself.


Its like you are complaining about complaining now. the carebear is strong in this one.


It's like you're complaining about complaining about complaining with a bit of ad hominem thrown in for good measure.


perhaps or maybe it was a ruse to incite a reply from you to discredit yourself further in this discussion.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#10 - 2013-12-16 01:00:52 UTC
I hate to do this in the test server forum, but can an ISD please lock this thread? Arguments and trolling are really for GD, not TSF.
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#11 - 2013-12-16 01:25:33 UTC
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2013-12-16 01:59:09 UTC
Red Teufel wrote:
Command Ships are far too slow to perform in small gangs. I would actually enjoy using them rather than leaving them off-grid for fights. That or give me some sort of cruiser version that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.

As Alvatore DiMarco pointed out, your options are:
1. Suck it up.
2. Get a T3.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Batelle
Filthy Peasants
#13 - 2013-12-16 02:09:11 UTC
t3, warp speed sub, keep up with fast gangs all day.

What's the problem?

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#14 - 2013-12-16 02:25:45 UTC
Batelle wrote:
t3, warp speed sub, keep up with fast gangs all day.
What's the problem?

It's not obvious? They're cheap, lol.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#15 - 2013-12-16 05:19:06 UTC
Sigras
Conglomo
#16 - 2013-12-16 08:12:29 UTC
so your complaint isnt that the ship you want doesnt exist; your complaint is that the ship you want is too expensive?

Yeah, thats kinda a ridiculous complaint

the only thing I can see a case for is a destroyer sized command ship with a 1% bonus to keep up with frigate sized gangs.

We already have cruiser, battlecruiser and capital class command ships, the only thing missing is frigates.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
#17 - 2013-12-16 12:59:51 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
OP... look at this thread: "Light" Command Ships


ah thank you!
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#18 - 2013-12-16 16:10:03 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
T3s are smaller and faster. They don't cost that much, although they're less effective than a Command Ship.

Anyway, Command Ships are based on Battlecruisers and you don't seem to be complaining about how fast [i]those[i/] are. Basically you want Command Ships to be faster than the T1 hull they're based on when speed isn't even part of their role.

Maybe you should just accept it and put a microwarp and a nano or two on.



T3 are 2x to 3x the cost of a command ship. but yes they are faster but they have less command bonus.

with the Ongrid/offgrid changes* comming soon command ships could do with faster align and base speed.

* Off-grid will only be 50% effective while ON-grid will be 100%

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#19 - 2013-12-16 18:03:28 UTC
Seranova Farreach wrote:
* Off-grid will only be 50% effective while ON-grid will be 100%


Source?