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CFC Declares War on N3.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#61 - 2013-12-15 17:14:15 UTC
MestariBation wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."


Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?

read the linked TMC article again

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2013-12-15 17:14:34 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
MestariBation wrote:

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?


250 man sentry carrier fleets became a thing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#63 - 2013-12-15 17:15:31 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
What a whiny whiny whinefest that article is... Poor CFC can't wtfpwn N3 because they're using Slowcats.. lmao



We can wreck the slowcats....the issue is that we kill the server before we reach critical mass. There is a big difference between a TEST slowcat fleet and a PL/NC. slow fleet under Erebus bonuses.

Rekon X wrote:
Null sec alliance war decing another null sec alliance is noting more than propaganda. But that is what mitten is all about.

Think they can do more than gank a hisec mission runner or a mining barge?

I doubt it.


lol grrr Goon.

remember, you can have a peaceful time farming as a progodlegend renter

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2013-12-15 17:17:38 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
MestariBation wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."


Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?

read the linked TMC article again

Are you crazy?

Send me isk im poor
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2013-12-15 17:17:53 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
MestariBation wrote:

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?

250 man sentry carrier fleets became a thing.

Bah, if you're going to ask me a question you could at least acknowledge my answer instead of the shidlorty one that hijacked it.

Dodixie > Hek
David Kir
Errantry Armaments
#66 - 2013-12-15 17:18:26 UTC

baltec1 wrote:

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#67 - 2013-12-15 17:21:25 UTC
David Kir wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.


Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-12-15 17:22:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

Bomber's Bar?

Dodixie > Hek
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2013-12-15 17:23:33 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
David Kir wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.


Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

Stop them doing what?

Send me isk im poor
Rekon X
Doomheim
#70 - 2013-12-15 17:25:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."


Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


And will the goon pets join in when it's obvious da goonz will let them fry if they get attacked.

Is anyone really that stupid?

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
David Kir
Errantry Armaments
#71 - 2013-12-15 17:33:18 UTC  |  Edited by: David Kir
baltec1 wrote:
David Kir wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.


Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?


a) They aren't immune to bombers, you won't break them but you'll stop them from dealing damage.

b) Not my issue.

That's not my point.

My point is that whining about a tactic that overcomes superior numbers is silly, and that is it.
All you have to do is come up with a superior tactic, which is what the "train dreads" post is for.

As for the supercap superiority: you're the attacking party.
Your industrial machine is intact, your carebears can do their thing freely.
Build your own, use alliance funds to buy pilots.
Problem solved.

Also, stop them doing...?

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#72 - 2013-12-15 17:40:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
David Kir wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.


Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?

maybe they should have the power since they're the best at finding things to abuse then

why don't you blob 200 titans

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-12-15 17:42:18 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
maybe they should have the power since they're the best at finding things to abuse then

why don't you blob 200 titans

Yo, no, that's not fair, RnK are pretty good. Or that time those goon guys did that thing with the economy where they made shitloads of money, I forget the details.

Dodixie > Hek
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#74 - 2013-12-15 17:46:02 UTC
c u on teh battlefield m8s o7
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#75 - 2013-12-15 17:57:34 UTC
Actually the fun part of this is, that if the two blocks go for it and lose massive amounts of strategic assets in major fights then this is a game changer, I can only hope that this happens, the game needs it...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-12-15 17:57:53 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
I mean, Goons and Russians have so much respect and love for each other and do not harbour any ill feelings at all towards each other

We've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006 so I'm not sure really what you're getting at.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Othran
Route One
#77 - 2013-12-15 18:02:27 UTC
Frankly nobody gives a **** apart from you and them.

OP should get hit with the banstick for being a fuckwit and posting it here though.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#78 - 2013-12-15 18:04:10 UTC
It's just goon tears and blobbers getting together to blob

nbd

Btw, if you guys make XL Artillery, might want to start counting your isk~ies

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rekon X
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-12-15 18:05:18 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
I mean, Goons and Russians have so much respect and love for each other and do not harbour any ill feelings at all towards each other

We've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006 so I'm not sure really what you're getting at.


And you've been right there beside them the last month.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2013-12-15 18:09:28 UTC
Every internet spaceships war is fought on three theatres:
• Morale and population metagame #1
• Economy and logistics #2
• Doctrines and skill level #3

Failure in any of these results in cascade of others, and when morale fails it takes a week for any entity to fold.

How will the slowcats be defeated? By making them show up less for fights. The Naglfar picture is only painted as a threatening scenario for that slowcat blob pilots, the Nag doctrine will probably never see the daylight because one day in the near future the slowcats will undock without the critical numbers to hold the spider up with good enough response. Then the morale spine cracks and N3 folds in a week.

Alternatively, the slowcats turn up with 300 every single undock and start to gain ground. No dread doctrine can reach the range of bouncer/warden with enough alpha. 140km - lol. My money is on the turn up f up though.