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CFC Declares War on N3.

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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-12-15 16:01:11 UTC
I dont see how anything has changed.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-12-15 16:08:45 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Although, this does make me wonder. Will the Russians become a CFC vassal state after this? In particular, how will N3's territory get divided up after it's over?


Like all such things, where "gentleman's agreements" are rarely more than polite words spoken in allegedly polite company, the likelihood that one side or the other will "freely adapt" that agreement is what really matters. In RL, we call that nest of smiling mandarins "The UN". Blink



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MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2013-12-15 16:10:51 UTC
Rumtin wrote:
I was a little surprised this wasn't already posted. The Mittani recently posted on his news sight a new doctrine involving Dreadnaughts.

http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-omegafleet-rising-0

It is unclear if were going to see any sov transfers or not, but its clear things between the CFC and N3 just got hotter.

~Rumtin

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2013-12-15 16:10:59 UTC
The Mittani's final mistake

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#45 - 2013-12-15 16:15:46 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


The blob works against itself in terms of time due to TiDi too, so I see your point, but I am still not convinced that Eve should be balanced to enable mass sub caps to win all the time, I was never in favour of the nerf to Titan main gun tracking to stop them being used on sub caps, though I did agree with that nerf in terms of the DD.

But this is different to the Super issue where the only counter is more supers, in this case you actually do have a counter in LR dreads.


It has yet to be tested.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#46 - 2013-12-15 16:16:31 UTC
CFC N3 R2D2 DJ OMG 3D TIDI 007

I'm sure someone somewhere gives a **** about all this



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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#47 - 2013-12-15 16:39:03 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


The blob works against itself in terms of time due to TiDi too, so I see your point, but I am still not convinced that Eve should be balanced to enable mass sub caps to win all the time, I was never in favour of the nerf to Titan main gun tracking to stop them being used on sub caps, though I did agree with that nerf in terms of the DD.

But this is different to the Super issue where the only counter is more supers, in this case you actually do have a counter in LR dreads.


It has yet to be tested.

as long as the 250 archons can refit fast enough and swap drones around, there's an escape mechanic that works when pointed, scrammed, bubbled, infinipointed, etc

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2013-12-15 16:50:00 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


The blob works against itself in terms of time due to TiDi too, so I see your point, but I am still not convinced that Eve should be balanced to enable mass sub caps to win all the time, I was never in favour of the nerf to Titan main gun tracking to stop them being used on sub caps, though I did agree with that nerf in terms of the DD.

But this is different to the Super issue where the only counter is more supers, in this case you actually do have a counter in LR dreads.


It has yet to be tested.

as long as the 250 archons can refit fast enough and swap drones around, there's an escape mechanic that works when pointed, scrammed, bubbled, infinipointed, etc


This is going to be funBig smile
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-12-15 16:51:58 UTC
...CAOD? No? Nobody? Mmkay then.

Dodixie > Hek
Rekon X
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-12-15 16:59:47 UTC
Null sec alliance war decing another null sec alliance is noting more than propaganda. But that is what mitten is all about.

Think they can do more than gank a hisec mission runner or a mining barge?

I doubt it.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#51 - 2013-12-15 17:00:30 UTC
There's elite highsec pvp in Perimeter on the pocos

but there, we also blob

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rekon X
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-12-15 17:00:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


The blob works against itself in terms of time due to TiDi too, so I see your point, but I am still not convinced that Eve should be balanced to enable mass sub caps to win all the time, I was never in favour of the nerf to Titan main gun tracking to stop them being used on sub caps, though I did agree with that nerf in terms of the DD.

But this is different to the Super issue where the only counter is more supers, in this case you actually do have a counter in LR dreads.


It has yet to be tested.

as long as the 250 archons can refit fast enough and swap drones around, there's an escape mechanic that works when pointed, scrammed, bubbled, infinipointed, etc


And they have the goon squad propagating the propaganda in this thread don't they.

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-12-15 17:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Onictus
Infinity Ziona wrote:
What a whiny whiny whinefest that article is... Poor CFC can't wtfpwn N3 because they're using Slowcats.. lmao



We can wreck the slowcats....the issue is that we kill the server before we reach critical mass. There is a big difference between a TEST slowcat fleet and a PL/NC. slow fleet under Erebus bonuses.

Rekon X wrote:
Null sec alliance war decing another null sec alliance is noting more than propaganda. But that is what mitten is all about.

Think they can do more than gank a hisec mission runner or a mining barge?

I doubt it.


lol grrr Goon.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-12-15 17:04:33 UTC
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."

Dodixie > Hek
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2013-12-15 17:04:48 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
What a whiny whiny whinefest that article is... Poor CFC can't wtfpwn N3 because they're using Slowcats.. lmao



We can wreck the slowcats....the issue is that we kill the server before we reach critical mass. There is a big difference between a TEST slowcat fleet and a PL/NC. slow fleet under Erebus bonuses.

Problem is that you are now dealing PL/NC. , your dread fleet will burn Sad

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Rekon X
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-12-15 17:04:58 UTC
http://eve-dingo.com/coalition.php

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Rekon X
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-12-15 17:06:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Rekon X
Onictus wrote:

lol grrr Goon.


Dis is wut day lern dem in da goonz skool.

Did dey lern to push da buton do.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2013-12-15 17:09:04 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."


Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-12-15 17:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: ElQuirko
Rekon X wrote:
Dis is wut day lern dem in da goonz skool.

Did dey lern to push da buton do.

You tell 'em, NPC corp alt.

baltec1 wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Hmm. Well, if we go along with the previous state of nullsec, setting bluestandings is a pretty good idea. Then everyone stands a decent chance of survival. I like the adapted counter, but the format it's being presented in really is quite amusing.

Dodixie > Hek
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-12-15 17:11:44 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Oh I like this reply to Mittens:

Some Bloke wrote:
"bottom line anything that attempts to mitigate the CFCs number advantage is OP and unfair to the blob. We also are using the mechanic we whine about to show how OP it is but its not hypocritical because we are doing it ironically. We just want the mechanics that don't support us winning to be nerfed, so we can go back to feeling smug about our ability to beat everyone due to the overwhelming subcap advantage.

Seriously complaining about slowcats because you have trouble fighting them is like the hi-sec miners complaining about how easy it is to suicide gank."


Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?

Baltec fleet was the answer in Fountain, what has changed since? Sewers gone bad?

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