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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#61 - 2013-12-15 04:58:08 UTC
Sky' Darkstar wrote:
I actually shut down an entire carrier farming system out in Outer Rim the other day just because I sat in an Anathema with combat probes out.



I use the combat probes trick too. Generally is not needed cause as soon as you show in local they leaving you free to farm their sites/anomalies.
But if there's some though guy insisting in staying in his home system even when you show in local then can just launch combat prbes and everyone vapor.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2013-12-15 05:06:00 UTC
Daenika wrote:
The problem is local, not cloaks. You want real PvP, where people don't dock up when a neut enters systems? Wormholes. No local changes everything.

So do collapsible entrances, different rat AI and stronger rats, no stations, no supercaps, no cynos...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2013-12-15 06:04:27 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Daenika wrote:
The problem is local, not cloaks. You want real PvP, where people don't dock up when a neut enters systems? Wormholes. No local changes everything.

So do collapsible entrances, different rat AI and stronger rats, no stations, no supercaps, no cynos...

Yeah if there were no cynos' I'd be engaging a lot more but as it is its not worth attacking anything that can't be killed faster than they can drop a cyno.

If one thing stops pvp in null / low sec in anything but cheap ships its cyno's not afk cloaking.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2013-12-15 06:05:40 UTC
You're joking, right? Without cynos we wouldn't have epic large fights and it would take us much longer to get anywhere.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#65 - 2013-12-15 06:30:08 UTC
maybe eve doesn't need your blobber battles

and the node crashes so the supers get away anyway

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#66 - 2013-12-15 06:38:08 UTC
I still want for my character a cloak with texk "AFK" on the back. Hood would be nice, but not necessary.

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2013-12-15 11:04:41 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
You're joking, right? Without cynos we wouldn't have epic large fights and it would take us much longer to get anywhere.

Hate to break it to you but there were epic large fleet battles way before cynos's. The only ships that NEED cyno's are capitals since they can't use gates.

As for the taking much longer, that's a good thing imo.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Josef Djugashvilis
#68 - 2013-12-15 11:18:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Treyah wrote:
Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!


So, what you are saying is that the null-sec pixel hard-men of Eve Online, who spend so much of their time berating hi-sec folk as care-bears, too scared to move to null where the 'real' game is played, are themselves terrified of a cloaked ship which cannot harm them in any way.

It seems to me that the only place many null-sec pixel hard-men are actually tough, is on the forums.

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#69 - 2013-12-15 12:47:16 UTC
Karrl Tian wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Treyah wrote:
Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!


Last week interceptors were ruining the game, now it's back to cloaks.

HTFU etc...


Next week....cloaky interceptors using the mobile depot to farm FW plexes.Shocked


Best post ever!

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
TharOkha
0asis Group
#70 - 2013-12-15 13:12:57 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Treyah wrote:
Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!


Last week interceptors were ruining the game, now it's back to cloaks.

HTFU etc...


And dont forget the depos. depos ruining game too Big smile alongside with falcons, local, smartbombs, mining turrets etc..

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#71 - 2013-12-15 14:13:33 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Treyah wrote:
Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!


Last week interceptors were ruining the game, now it's back to cloaks.

HTFU etc...


And dont forget the depos. depos ruining game too Big smile alongside with falcons, local, smartbombs, mining turrets etc..


Oh man, I totally forgot about those other things ruining the game too. Also Local is ruining the game or saving it depending on whatever side is shouting about it too.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2013-12-15 16:10:22 UTC
I think OP is the first player ever to say they dont like cloaks.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#73 - 2013-12-15 16:17:02 UTC
Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.

A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.

Josef Djugashvilis
#74 - 2013-12-15 16:20:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Victoria Sin wrote:
Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.

A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.



If ganking miners is a legitimate way to stop competition, then cloaking is a legitimate way to stop my enemies from earning isk, be it mining, ratting or mission running etc.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#75 - 2013-12-15 16:48:19 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because

…if you do, you might start figuring out counters, and neither the whiners nor the cloakers want that. Blink
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2013-12-15 17:05:55 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.

A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.




I'm being cloaky camped right now.....well I'm wating for him to log back in anyway.

Its fine just go around them.
Careby
#77 - 2013-12-15 17:38:51 UTC
CCP seems to think more cloaks are needed, rather than fewer. Otherwise why would they give them out as holiday gifts? Merry Christmas!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#78 - 2013-12-15 17:49:48 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Listen, just ignore and discount the opinions of people who come to these threads and say spectacularly stupid things like "cloaky camping can't harm you in any way", because they're either cloaky camper alts trying to justify their pointless existence or they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.

A blop threat is a blop threat. That's all you need to know.

I'm being cloaky camped right now.....well I'm wating for him to log back in anyway.

Its fine just go around them.

They're waiting for people to ignore them so they can covert hotdrop them of course

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Matokin Lemant
#79 - 2013-12-15 18:04:35 UTC
Treyah wrote:
Are broken - perma-running a cloak without any chance of being found is pretty much what kills gameplay in null-sec eve. It keeps people docked and just bores the crap out of everyone. I'm so sick of roaming people's space to find people docked all day because some neutral alt is cloaked up in the system -- CCP, YOUR GAME IS BECOMING BORING BECAUSE OF THIS LAME CLOAK DESIGN!


All this is likely going to be addressed in a future patch/expansion. If anyone has been following eve-ru user Tandi once again posted a prediction of currently unreleased features thought to be planned for release during Rubicon 1.1. Although currently unconfirmed by any official CCP developer or employee, these rumours have been taken seriously due to the accuracy of previous predictions from the same source.

*The above is an exert from the themittani.com article on the same subject as written By Jayne Fillon.

You can read the full article here I would also like to point out the same person also talked about some changes coming to local chat found here

So if one takes everything together it does look like there are some changes coming to the "intel" system(s) in eve. Which would in part help to deal with the very thing your whining about.







Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#80 - 2013-12-15 20:33:20 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
they've never actually had to live in systems where such cloaky campers sit all day.

Then don't live in such a system.


CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.