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Best (or Worst) Change EVAH!

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Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
#41 - 2013-12-13 17:35:40 UTC
Best: Skill Queue (I remember nearly peeing my pants in excitement when i first heard about it)

Worst: Turning exploration from a skilled occupation into a factory line job.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#42 - 2013-12-13 17:44:18 UTC
For years I used a Cyclone for exploration and this was back in the day that exploration sites were defended by NPCs.


When they changed the Cyclone, they basically turned it into a Gnosis without the scanning bonus.

The result is a ship that can field missiles AND drones and run a 100 MN AB too, so it can speed tank on a wide orbit, but still fit a buffer and the entire host of scanning/hacking/cloaking and even drone upgrades.

And for scanning bonus or hacking, there are rigs for that. I never had much trouble finding anything with a grav cap upgrade and Sisters gear. With just a paltry single large extender for tank it could still solo up to class 3 (though 3 is REALLY pushing it).

Odyssey and now the SoE ships have as expected rendered exploration fit battle cruisers(and probably the Gnosis too) obsolete for exploration. But still, I find the Cyclone to be the perfect ship since the changes. It's very flexible now, and cheap too. For someone who is just getting started in exploration or cannot afford an SoE ship, I would still recommend the Cyclone. It's has a lot of brute force behind it and the slot layouts provide great flexibility with generous calibration in the rig slots. And being a battle cruiser leave it with a great lack of mass for WH travel (though the SoE battleship Nestor will be making this feature of BC mass also obsolete).

The new Cyclone is IMO one of the best ships in the game for the ISK.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ezekiel Ironstone
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-12-13 19:01:12 UTC
Best: difficult to say.

Worst: I'd have to say that, for me, Incarna and WiS are top of the list of worst changes ever made to the game as I know it (from 2009, post Apoc expansion).
I am not against the idea of WiS, I think it has a lot of potential, but the implementation was a disaster. While there will always be a divide on whether WiS belongs in Eve, CCP did such a horrid job on it that they screwed over both sides of the issue. People against WiS got a raw deal because of the time and resources that could have been better spent on FiS material, while the people who want WiS got a half assed, poorly functional, system taxing apartment with a TV.
Then to go and have to listen to the likes of Hilmar praising it like it was some world shattering breakthrough technology, and the subsequent months of excuses and empty apologies that flowed out, it is simply one of the most damaging expansions I've seen in games.
cynthia greythorne
Blue Cat Instrumentality
#44 - 2013-12-13 20:20:15 UTC
Worst: Adding gas clouds, supernovas, and other visual blight to every system/constellation. I miss deep black space.

Best: Ummmm....Making the Achura start with the same number of attribute points as everyone else? Allowing an annual remap? Making the Nemesis look like a legless crab?
Josef Djugashvilis
#45 - 2013-12-13 21:17:00 UTC
Best, warp to zero.

Worst, allowing DUST, a game I do not play, on a console I do not own, to have any effect whatsoever on Eve Online, a computer game I do 'own' and pay for.

What next, World of Darkness Vampires attacking us in the Captains' Quarters?

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Attrael
Umokka Research and Technology Institute
#46 - 2013-12-13 22:32:43 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
Worst - Moving the undock button. I still move my mouse to the lower corner every time im going to undock! Lol


I thought I was the only one who still did that!

Best: Probably the introduction of worm holes
Worst: The nerfing of NOS modules into complete uselessness.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#47 - 2013-12-13 23:22:24 UTC
The best thing that happened was some driven Icelanders getting together and deciding they where going to make a SF game. And then also doing it.
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
Worst - Moving the undock button. I still move my mouse to the lower corner every time im going to undock! Lol
Oh yes, that is definitely high on the list....Cry

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-12-13 23:29:16 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For years I used a Cyclone for exploration and this was back in the day that exploration sites were defended by NPCs.


When they changed the Cyclone, they basically turned it into a Gnosis without the scanning bonus.

The result is a ship that can field missiles AND drones and run a 100 MN AB too, so it can speed tank on a wide orbit, but still fit a buffer and the entire host of scanning/hacking/cloaking and even drone upgrades.

And for scanning bonus or hacking, there are rigs for that. I never had much trouble finding anything with a grav cap upgrade and Sisters gear. With just a paltry single large extender for tank it could still solo up to class 3 (though 3 is REALLY pushing it).

Odyssey and now the SoE ships have as expected rendered exploration fit battle cruisers(and probably the Gnosis too) obsolete for exploration. But still, I find the Cyclone to be the perfect ship since the changes. It's very flexible now, and cheap too. For someone who is just getting started in exploration or cannot afford an SoE ship, I would still recommend the Cyclone. It's has a lot of brute force behind it and the slot layouts provide great flexibility with generous calibration in the rig slots. And being a battle cruiser leave it with a great lack of mass for WH travel (though the SoE battleship Nestor will be making this feature of BC mass also obsolete).

The new Cyclone is IMO one of the best ships in the game for the ISK.




But consider that a Stratios costs as much as buying and (T2) fitting a strategic cruiser, I'd say there's plenty of room for other ships at this time. When prices start to come down, then there will definitely need to be a balance discussion.

Of course, based on the market data at this time, it seems unlikely prices will come down. The market has surprisingly little velocity at this time.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#49 - 2013-12-13 23:39:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
masternerdguy wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For years I used a Cyclone for exploration and this was back in the day that exploration sites were defended by NPCs.


When they changed the Cyclone, they basically turned it into a Gnosis without the scanning bonus.

The result is a ship that can field missiles AND drones and run a 100 MN AB too, so it can speed tank on a wide orbit, but still fit a buffer and the entire host of scanning/hacking/cloaking and even drone upgrades.

And for scanning bonus or hacking, there are rigs for that. I never had much trouble finding anything with a grav cap upgrade and Sisters gear. With just a paltry single large extender for tank it could still solo up to class 3 (though 3 is REALLY pushing it).

Odyssey and now the SoE ships have as expected rendered exploration fit battle cruisers(and probably the Gnosis too) obsolete for exploration. But still, I find the Cyclone to be the perfect ship since the changes. It's very flexible now, and cheap too. For someone who is just getting started in exploration or cannot afford an SoE ship, I would still recommend the Cyclone. It's has a lot of brute force behind it and the slot layouts provide great flexibility with generous calibration in the rig slots. And being a battle cruiser leave it with a great lack of mass for WH travel (though the SoE battleship Nestor will be making this feature of BC mass also obsolete).

The new Cyclone is IMO one of the best ships in the game for the ISK.




But consider that a Stratios costs as much as buying and (T2) fitting a strategic cruiser, I'd say there's plenty of room for other ships at this time. When prices start to come down, then there will definitely need to be a balance discussion.

Of course, based on the market data at this time, it seems unlikely prices will come down. The market has surprisingly little velocity at this time.




Hmmm interesting. Suddenly I am more inclined to sell my Stratios than use it.


Oh and the worst change ever?

Before this change I had a racket going. I never cleared exploration sites. I used amazing levels of drone fu and Captain Kirkery to hack/ana/salvage the containers while still in combat. Sometimes I would draw the NPCs off, then warp to the cans, do my thing, and I'm gone before they got within 50 KM.


But then, one day:

"You cannot open these containers while they are still being defended". (or something like that)

Aaaargh! (shakes fist). Tricksy CCP hobbitses we hate them!

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#50 - 2013-12-14 00:22:52 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For years I used a Cyclone for exploration and this was back in the day that exploration sites were defended by NPCs.


When they changed the Cyclone, they basically turned it into a Gnosis without the scanning bonus.

The result is a ship that can field missiles AND drones and run a 100 MN AB too, so it can speed tank on a wide orbit, but still fit a buffer and the entire host of scanning/hacking/cloaking and even drone upgrades.

And for scanning bonus or hacking, there are rigs for that. I never had much trouble finding anything with a grav cap upgrade and Sisters gear. With just a paltry single large extender for tank it could still solo up to class 3 (though 3 is REALLY pushing it).

Odyssey and now the SoE ships have as expected rendered exploration fit battle cruisers(and probably the Gnosis too) obsolete for exploration. But still, I find the Cyclone to be the perfect ship since the changes. It's very flexible now, and cheap too. For someone who is just getting started in exploration or cannot afford an SoE ship, I would still recommend the Cyclone. It's has a lot of brute force behind it and the slot layouts provide great flexibility with generous calibration in the rig slots. And being a battle cruiser leave it with a great lack of mass for WH travel (though the SoE battleship Nestor will be making this feature of BC mass also obsolete).

The new Cyclone is IMO one of the best ships in the game for the ISK.




But consider that a Stratios costs as much as buying and (T2) fitting a strategic cruiser, I'd say there's plenty of room for other ships at this time. When prices start to come down, then there will definitely need to be a balance discussion.

Of course, based on the market data at this time, it seems unlikely prices will come down. The market has surprisingly little velocity at this time.




Hmmm interesting. Suddenly I am more inclined to sell my Stratios than use it.


Oh and the worst change ever?

Before this change I had a racket going. I never cleared exploration sites. I used amazing levels of drone fu and Captain Kirkery to hack/ana/salvage the containers while still in combat. Sometimes I would draw the NPCs off, then warp to the cans, do my thing, and I'm gone before they got within 50 KM.


But then, one day:

"You cannot open these containers while they are still being defended". (or something like that)

Aaaargh! (shakes fist). Tricksy CCP hobbitses we hate them!



Laugh out Loud / see what I did there?

Be careful what you think, for your thoughts become your words. Be careful what you say, for your words become your actions. Be careful what you do, for your actions become your character. And character is everything. - author unknown
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#51 - 2013-12-14 01:49:46 UTC
I will never forgive them for what they did to mah drones.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-12-14 01:55:07 UTC
Best : wormholes
Worst : all kind of insta jump and hotdroping
or maybe the scrambler buff that now shutdown mwd
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#53 - 2013-12-14 07:35:31 UTC
Best: cruise missile improvements.

Worst: The sad jokes that pass for expansions in this game.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#54 - 2013-12-14 20:15:46 UTC
Worst: The new rapid light and rapid heavy missile launchers. 40-second reload...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#55 - 2013-12-14 21:34:09 UTC
Worst is the recent reduction in volume of the new mwd sound. I loved that.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#56 - 2013-12-14 21:53:40 UTC
Best: Search window in inventory
Worst: Joining this game.

I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg

CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
Alice Ituin
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-12-14 22:50:01 UTC
Best: Wormholes
Worst: Titanbridges
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#58 - 2013-12-14 23:31:01 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Worst: The new rapid light and rapid heavy missile launchers. 40-second reload...



Read all about it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
#59 - 2013-12-15 01:38:43 UTC
Best: T2 Ships

Worst: All Capital Ships, ever single one of them
Boomhaur
#60 - 2013-12-15 09:21:32 UTC
Worst: Walking in station/Incarna and the new jump animation

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