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peasants and bandits

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JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-22 11:10:23 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaJane
Dear peasants. Ah my apologies, you may not know you are peasants. Let me explain. Do you work a parcel of land for a feudal lord (you may call him an executor or CEO he is in essence your lord)? Do you perhaps defend his domain for the price of wearing his livery and a pointy stick he provides you (ship replacement you might call it)? Well then you are a peasant. Unless you are getting more than a corp tag in your bio and weapons do defend a realm someone else is profiting off of you are in all but name (and I just named you so even that) a peasant. Now as to bandits. Do you live in the outskirts of Empire scratching a living out of whatever unwary travelers you can ambush? Well then you are a bandit. Which is just fine. As is being a peasant. And honestly I do not have a thing to offer you. Except information. Take it as you will.

I myself am a freeman of the bourgeois. I believe that often enough you would refer to such as myself as a care bear. And for some reason you consider the course of my existence in New Eden to be some sort of offense to yourself. Which frankly confuses me and many of my class. As we could not care less if you choose to be a peasant or a bandit. Although I must admit to me it seems that being a freeman is a better life. And if being a peasant is so noble than why are you so upset most of the time? And if being a bandit is so critical then please go be a bandit but do not be surprised when no one else wants to live in your neighborhood. And for god's sake stop complaining that they do not.

The most common complaint I hear about those of us in the bourgeois is that our lifestyle is too rewarding for the marginal risks we take. Which begs the question; if the choices we have made are so rewarding why not take the same path? If you see a man who bought a mule and carries ten times the turnips you may bear upon your back do you spite him or buy a mule? And yes I hear you peasants rumbling that your life is so much better running sanctums. When your lord has not handed you a pointy stick and commanded you to invade another lord's domain. Or grab the same pointed stick and defend his lands from the neighbor's peasants who have received a command much the same as your own. Just so long as a cyno is not cloaked in local. And if you are successful here then why are you mad bro? And if you feel that the game is imbalanced for peasants then why have you not thrown off your plow and left? I assure you the market is quite open and none of us will begrudge you claiming your slice of that pie.

And I so often hear from you bandits complaints that we will not visit your neighborhood. Or that we freemen are ruining New Eden by telling our children (Newbies you might call them) to avoid your little ghetto like the plague. Which is of course entirely true. But entirely your fault. Why would we endure the trouble of navigating the ghetto when whatever it produces will land swiftly in Jita at a mark up much less than any hardware we would lose harvesting it ourselves? We are more than content to let you do the grunt work and do not begrudge any profit you might make. As tot he children we are in fact a bit paternal. We try to pass to them the lessons we have already learned about slumming, not that this stops them. They will still go on roams and attempt to build moon mining POSes and thankfully you stout lads are there to teach them that we were right all along and it is indeed a young man's sport. Wasteful of time and resources. To be entirely honest we would love to gentrify your neighborhood if only we were not certain that such attempts would be met by corner thugs with switchblades. No good return on that investment.

I think that the misunderstandings we have had really amount to a misunderstanding of purpose. Commonly I hear the bourgeoisie referred to as 'risk averse'. Nothing could be further from the truth. Risk vs. reward is ingrained in our very existence. We simply call it net profit. Simply put it could be describes as (reward-risk)/time. And we measure all activities by this theorem. Our skill at refining it is status amongst out community. If others choose high risk behaviors regardless of their rewards we do not begrudge them. I will translate this into the argot, “ If the way I play works better than yours HTFU and stop whining.” Rgr?

As an aside I must express my utmost respect for the lords and bandit lords who have managed to maximize their profits. Sirs I salute you. As an independent businessman I can truly value the effort and organization it requires to keep your peasants in line and achieve what are (I assume) unholy profits. Which brings me to a caveat I must gift to the peasants and bandits out there. If through some machination your neighborhood becomes appealing to my people consider the result. If your system is worth 1 billion a month we are more than willing to buy 5 billion in hulls and mercenaries to obtain it for 6 months. And we won't take it personally. Your time and effort invested will be a cost overrun on a spreadsheet. Your glorious final stand will be an unfortunate but necessary expenditure. We will ignore K/L ratios and focus on the bottom line. Much like the Lords do their serfs. So instead of being jealous be glad that you do not own anything that we want.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Luh Windan
green fish hat bang bang
#2 - 2011-11-22 11:16:23 UTC
well you aren't going to get any love for that but spot on. Hadn't looked at it like that before
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-22 11:17:28 UTC
What is the ROI on love?

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#4 - 2011-11-22 11:17:32 UTC
You got a TLDR version? The lack of line breaks makes it hard to read without going cross eye'd
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-22 11:20:07 UTC
Ah that is an ancient format called paragraphs. Sorry if my anachronism confused you.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-11-22 11:22:02 UTC
Jooce McNasty wrote:
You got a TLDR version? The lack of line breaks makes it hard to read without going cross eye'd

Indeed, it's a little :walloftext:. Learn to use paragraph breaks, they really benefit this forum.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade

Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#7 - 2011-11-22 11:22:08 UTC
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-11-22 11:24:09 UTC
RIF

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2011-11-22 11:27:05 UTC
JitaJane wrote:
Ah that is an ancient format called paragraphs.
Yes. It is a long-lost art. You should try to revive it.

And no, simply putting a line break at the end of a given sentence does not create a paragraph.
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-22 11:29:14 UTC
Oh my I had not counted on the degeneracy of literacy amongst the peasantry (assonance I know). Terribly sorry if I confused you I will draw a picture next time.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#11 - 2011-11-22 11:30:25 UTC
Tippia wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Ah that is an ancient format called paragraphs.
Yes. It is a long-lost art. You should try to revive it.

And no, simply putting a line break at the end of a given sentence does not create a paragraph.


Even after copy and paste into another word program adding in the line breaks it still is hard to read. I think it would take a full edit on the punctuation and possibly some grammar editing to make it readable. I wasn't able to make it past the second paragraph due to the writing style.
Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#12 - 2011-11-22 11:32:49 UTC
JitaJane wrote:
Oh my I had not counted on the degeneracy of literacy amongst the peasantry (assonance I know). Terribly sorry if I confused you I will draw a picture next time.


Degeneracy of literacy? Take a few writing courses come back and try and state your point in a proper manner. You will be taken more seriously if there is not so many glaring grammatical errors.

Your writing style is a shame to the entire English language, just because your on the internet does not mean you can write like a slob and be taken seriously.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2011-11-22 11:32:54 UTC
JitaJane wrote:
Oh my I had not counted on the degeneracy of literacy amongst the peasantry
So stop being a peasant and learn how to write. It will really help you.
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-11-22 11:35:42 UTC
Actually people pay me to write. I did notice that somehow indentation did not manage to come out on the post. I begin to suspect I am getting trolled. Rather I hope I am getting trolled? I don't want to be that old person who realizes that the kids all have ADHD......

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#15 - 2011-11-22 11:36:04 UTC
I somewhat enjoyed the read, despite the lack of proper spacing. The one little thing that got to me, however, is your gross overestimation of the carebears' financial might. Because maximizing the risk/reward ratio is akin to following the bible, they never take the risks that can result in truly astonishing payouts. So, they make decent money grinding their level fours, but it's not even in the same league as the wealth held by the ones who own empires. In the eyes of anyone who matters, you are still a pauper.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-22 11:36:27 UTC
See now I used the space bar rather than tab that time and still no indentation.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Jooce McNasty
Islefive Consulting
#17 - 2011-11-22 11:39:22 UTC
JitaJane wrote:
Actually people pay me to write. I did notice that somehow indentation did not manage to come out on the post. I begin to suspect I am getting trolled. Rather I hope I am getting trolled? I don't want to be that old person who realizes that the kids all have ADHD......


People pay you to write? Really? Wow I feel sorry for them, they obviously are not getting a good value for their dollar.

I am not trolling you at all, I am constantly reading. Part of my job is reading technical documents written by engineers who's primary language is not English and they are able to convey their point in a more practical manner.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2011-11-22 11:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
JitaJane wrote:
Actually people pay me to write.
They should get their money back.
Quote:
I did notice that somehow indentation did not manage to come out on the post.
This is nothing new and is common to pretty much all forums. Had you used something as simple a revision rule as previewing your text, you would have noticed that and adjusted your text accordingly to add proper paragraph markers.

You would also have noticed that, even then, your paragraphs and sentences are poorly structured and need further revising.

So hop to it or go back to the farm.
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-11-22 11:39:39 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I somewhat enjoyed the read, despite the lack of proper spacing. The one little thing that got to me, however, is your gross overestimation of the carebears' financial might. Because maximizing the risk/reward ratio is akin to following the bible, they never take the risks that can result in truly astonishing payouts. So, they make decent money grinding their level fours, but it's not even in the same league as the wealth held by the ones who own empires. In the eyes of anyone who matters, you are still a pauper.

I give all credit to those who own serfs. It is far more effort than an independent such as myself can maintain. And I easily admit that their profits are greater than my own.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-22 11:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: KFenn
Jooce McNasty wrote:
Tippia wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Ah that is an ancient format called paragraphs.
Yes. It is a long-lost art. You should try to revive it.

And no, simply putting a line break at the end of a given sentence does not create a paragraph.


Even after copy and paste into another word program adding in the line breaks it still is hard to read. I think it would take a full edit on the punctuation and possibly some grammar editing to make it readable. I wasn't able to make it past the second paragraph due to the writing style.

This. It's not helped by the fact that your post reads like an incoherent rant by someone on the very verge of being sectioned.

Anyway, that aside, your post is rubbish. I'm in a PvP corp, and we all make our own money, buy our own ships, fly around solo or in small gangs together. We don't have an agenda or a goal, we just want to make things go boom. That's literally it. We're not waging an economic war, we're not attempting to prove anything, we just like explosions, even when it's our own ships.

Some people do PvP for the sake of PvP. And some people aren't interested in blowing up carebears, whether they be in high, low or nullsec, some people want to fight people who will fight back. Trust me, it's much more fun winning a fight where you're on the edge of your seat knowing one **** up could cause you to die than it is killing defenceless ships. That's not to say I won't do so if the opportunity arises, I just won't actively hunt for you.

I don't get what it is with the carebear mentality of every PvPer wants to hunt you down and kill you. A lot of actual PvPers don't give a **** about you, or your corporation, or your operations. We don't give a damn if you make the ships we buy or not. If you're in the wrong place you're dead, if you're not then you get ignored. Quit thinking you're important or something; you're just another carebear that I might just happen to cross, and maybe kill. Nothing more.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade

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