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Community Spotlight: 30 Days in EVE

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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2013-12-13 17:09:06 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Bringing new blood into EVE Online is important. As our older capsuleers move on to new pastures (even though we know they'll be coming back. No one ever 'quits' EVE Online!), the new players come in, energize things, and add their own uniqueness to the EVE Universe. The experiences of new players is something everyone is familiar with, but it's very rarely something that's been recorded.

But one new player (still under a month old right now!) has been recording his experiences in EVE Online over his first 30 days. His video series is the topic of this week's Community Spotlight!

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#2 - 2013-12-13 17:29:37 UTC
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Daedra Blue
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-12-13 17:33:37 UTC
"But veterans of EVE, so often referred to as bitter by themselves in grim sarcasm, rarely get a chance to experience those feelings of wonder again."

Yeah because if i want to go fly awesome frig fights with newbies i have to pay 20M a clone when i actually fly a 500k is ship. To make matters worse we need to roll a new char to even be able to give it a decent shot right? Right! Remember a new account costs a plex a month? Yeah so its 20M+ per pod and ~600M a month to have fun with the newcomers. So when you ask yourself where all the high SP chars are and how your end game looks like when you are big a powerful.

It looks like being permanently stuck in a capital ship looking at POS shields all the time. It's as boring as it gets.

How about you revise the clone mechanic into a monthly fee and not a /per clone level or something that lets us have fun too.
Annie Getyourgun
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-12-13 17:57:34 UTC
Daedra Blue wrote:
"But veterans of EVE, so often referred to as bitter by themselves in grim sarcasm, rarely get a chance to experience those feelings of wonder again."

Yeah because if i want to go fly awesome frig fights with newbies i have to pay 20M a clone when i actually fly a 500k is ship. To make matters worse we need to roll a new char to even be able to give it a decent shot right? Right! Remember a new account costs a plex a month? Yeah so its 20M+ per pod and ~600M a month to have fun with the newcomers. So when you ask yourself where all the high SP chars are and how your end game looks like when you are big a powerful.

It looks like being permanently stuck in a capital ship looking at POS shields all the time. It's as boring as it gets.

How about you revise the clone mechanic into a monthly fee and not a /per clone level or something that lets us have fun too.


I hear* you have three character slots per account, and can use one of those slots without paying for a second account. Yes, you can only train one character at a time, but since your veteran character with the 20M clone has all the skills trained, a month or two won't hurt while you train up this second character. You can even stop the training at a set time, in order to keep the cost of the clone on this frigate alt inexpensive (or even free!). Then once you have this character trained with adequate skills, you can go out and have fun flying awesome frigate fights with newbies, and don't have to worry about the cost of the clone. Heck, you can do with without hassling your capital ship pilot to ever leave the POS.

Sadly the only drawback is you cannot sit in your capital ship looking out the shields at the same time as having loads of inexpensive fun in frigates :(



*I am far to inexperienced to consider myself a bittervet, so any opinions or knowledge I might appear to be sharing should be weighted accordingly, and independently verified.
Daedra Blue
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-12-13 18:01:22 UTC
But as you adequately see there is no solution that lets you use your vet char.
Cristl
#6 - 2013-12-13 18:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Cristl
I was a bit distracted here, but did that guy just use a navy drake (with no cloak or MWD) to run a newbie epic arc courier mission into lowsec?

We really need a newbie do's and don'ts guide. Also, where the hell do the apostrophes go in the phrase "do's and don'ts" ? What?

Edit: watching more videos...these could form the nucleus of the "do's and don'ts guide", regardless of its confounding punctuation. Smile I'm enjoying watching these, despite the instictive urge to shout "no don't do that!" at the screen quite often.
Joran Jackson
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#7 - 2013-12-13 18:48:37 UTC
I really enjoyed this, it really did bring back those first few days, imagining the ships and all the things I could do.
Stridsflygplan
Deliverance.
Arrival.
#8 - 2013-12-13 20:55:04 UTC
Awesome! Cool
Rammix
TheMurk
#9 - 2013-12-13 20:59:23 UTC
Cristl wrote:
We really need a newbie do's and don'ts guide.

There are tons of them. Like "there is p0rn of it, no exceptions", here in eve is a guide of it. The problem is, many newbies don't read guides, some don't even pass through tutorials (and we know that unlike other games, in eve going through all turorials is obligatory if you don't want to do mistakes multiple times more).

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#10 - 2013-12-14 00:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Day 4 so far, and it is driving me batty that he won't open the skill queue.

EDIT: Had to stop watching. Too painful. I so want to help this guy.
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#11 - 2013-12-14 04:21:55 UTC
Annie Getyourgun wrote:
Daedra Blue wrote:
"But veterans of EVE, so often referred to as bitter by themselves in grim sarcasm, rarely get a chance to experience those feelings of wonder again."

Yeah because if i want to go fly awesome frig fights with newbies i have to pay 20M a clone when i actually fly a 500k is ship. To make matters worse we need to roll a new char to even be able to give it a decent shot right? Right! Remember a new account costs a plex a month? Yeah so its 20M+ per pod and ~600M a month to have fun with the newcomers. So when you ask yourself where all the high SP chars are and how your end game looks like when you are big a powerful.

It looks like being permanently stuck in a capital ship looking at POS shields all the time. It's as boring as it gets.

How about you revise the clone mechanic into a monthly fee and not a /per clone level or something that lets us have fun too.


I hear* you have three character slots per account, and can use one of those slots without paying for a second account. Yes, you can only train one character at a time, but since your veteran character with the 20M clone has all the skills trained, a month or two won't hurt while you train up this second character. You can even stop the training at a set time, in order to keep the cost of the clone on this frigate alt inexpensive (or even free!). Then once you have this character trained with adequate skills, you can go out and have fun flying awesome frigate fights with newbies, and don't have to worry about the cost of the clone. Heck, you can do with without hassling your capital ship pilot to ever leave the POS.

Sadly the only drawback is you cannot sit in your capital ship looking out the shields at the same time as having loads of inexpensive fun in frigates :(



*I am far to inexperienced to consider myself a bittervet, so any opinions or knowledge I might appear to be sharing should be weighted accordingly, and independently verified.


Actually you CAN train more than one character per account. That feature has been out for some months now.

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Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#12 - 2013-12-14 04:24:15 UTC
Cristl wrote:
I was a bit distracted here, but did that guy just use a navy drake (with no cloak or MWD) to run a newbie epic arc courier mission into lowsec?

We really need a newbie do's and don'ts guide. Also, where the hell do the apostrophes go in the phrase "do's and don'ts" ? What?

Edit: watching more videos...these could form the nucleus of the "do's and don'ts guide", regardless of its confounding punctuation. Smile I'm enjoying watching these, despite the instictive urge to shout "no don't do that!" at the screen quite often.


Haha yeah def. I don't usually get such feelings when watching movies but with his videos I kept wanting to yell at the screen 'OMG DONT DO THAT!!!"

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-12-14 09:29:47 UTC
Don't know why a brand new player is being featured in a Community Spotlight just for creating a Video blog about his noob experiences, especially when there's lot's of older Capsuleers who have created Video guides containing lot's of helpful info.

Not to sound jaded but I thought the main purpose of these Community Spotlights was to showcase and feature Capsuleers who have helped the community in one way or another.

Anyway, gratz to Kidabeybe Ahmed for being featured in this Community Spotlight.



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Kudabeybe Ahmed
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-12-14 10:39:13 UTC
I woke up in the morning to compose yesterday's game play session when I noticed all these comments on my videos. It took me by surprise at first because I didn't know the article was released. Nice feeling to get recognized... even for little things we do. Just that it takes time to reply to all the comments.

Especially when some of them point out major mistakes!

Tau Cabalander wrote:
Day 4 so far, and it is driving me batty that he won't open the skill queue.

EDIT: Had to stop watching. Too painful. I so want to help this guy.


Would it help if I said a day (or possibly two) went by where my character did not train on a skill?


But on a serious note. I am extremely grateful that my video series made it to the Eve Community Spotlight and wish to thank those who made that possible.

My first email to CCP was about requesting permission for publishing and monetizing the video game play series I was creating. CCP replied and gave me permission to publish but not to monetize. That was also when the CCP contact told me about their interest in what I was doing. And then it leads me here.


And I would like people to not forget why I started this series. It is not an attempt to 'teach' anyone anything about Eve Online. It is simply to show what a new player possibly goes through in this game. Is this what someone who wants to learn how to PVP would want to watch? Definitely not. Is it something a person who wants to create a corporation would want to watch? I doubt I'll be creating a corporation anytime soon.

If someone learns from what I do or don't do then great. If someone (most vets probably) gets annoyed at what I am doing and not doing then even that is okay. Because I can always learn from criticism... be it as negative as can be.



So the question everyone may wonder is; why am I still doing this?



Because it is FUN.
I would not have stuck with this game, doing all that I do to get these videos published, if this was not fun. And if I am having fun in this game... then all is well (as far as I am concerned). THAT is the end goal for me for this series.



Where will this series take me next? Well, time will tell.

Kudabeybe & Ebd
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2013-12-14 14:47:00 UTC
Please feel free to EVE-mail me if you have any questions.

Myself and others constantly lurk in the EVE New Citizens Q&A forum too.

Though nobody likes being stalked every time they login, also feel free to convo me with questions if you see me online.
Tlat Ij
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-12-14 15:03:27 UTC
Kudabeybe Ahmed wrote:
Would it help if I said a day (or possibly two) went by where my character did not train on a skill?
Thats pretty much the worst thing you could say about that. Cry
Kudabeybe Ahmed
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-12-14 15:55:11 UTC
Tlat Ij wrote:
Kudabeybe Ahmed wrote:
Would it help if I said a day (or possibly two) went by where my character did not train on a skill?
Thats pretty much the worst thing you could say about that. Cry


Hehehe. Yeah I realized that on the second day when I was moping around waiting for the skills that could have been trained up to actually train. So far... I haven't repeated this mistake. Lets see how long I can keep that up now.
Iella Wesirri
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
#18 - 2013-12-15 23:39:35 UTC
I've been watching his videos for about 2 weeks now. I remember watching the navy drake die. As someone in the HelpMyMission channel said, its like watching a train wreck in slow motion. All you can do is sit back and say "Noo! Nooooo! Nooooooooooooooooooooo!" I was thrilled he took up the MTU I told him about. It's such a great little thing to have.

To DeMichael Crimson, I'd hate to group you into the "bittervet" bin, but man you do sound like it there. What Kuda is doing there, while maybe not something that will be in the top 10 best things capsuleers have ever done, it still something pretty cool. After being around eve for over 6 years, I find myself being very jaded to almost everything that happens any more, and I forget what its really like for a new player. His video saga is pretty darned great if you ask me. It reminds me what new people go through, and what the learning curve is like for this game. I think it deserves the comunity spotlight thing.

CCP, good choice, broskis!

- Iella
Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2013-12-16 05:25:53 UTC
For those old enough to remember, probably the first pilot that did this kind of thing was Innominate Nightmare:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php/INNOMINATE_NIGHTMARE_%28Character%29

He wrote a very entertaining blog on his experiences as a new player:

http://00experiment.blogspot.com/

Highly recommended if you've never read it before.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2013-12-16 21:41:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Matuk Grymwal wrote:
For those old enough to remember, probably the first pilot that did this kind of thing was Innominate Nightmare:

https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php/INNOMINATE_NIGHTMARE_%28Character%29

He wrote a very entertaining blog on his experiences as a new player:

http://00experiment.blogspot.com/

Highly recommended if you've never read it before.

Organized to make it easier to read (scroll down):
http://np.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1pxz3x/humorous_douglas_adamsesque_blog_of_a_new_player/
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