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Equilibrium of Mankind (Caldari/Amarr)
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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1 - 2013-12-12 19:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
This is my idea for a EoM faction race. I'm only going to do the battleship. It's just for fun. I hope others post their own ideas for all different new faction races and ships :^ )

Equilibrium of Mankind (Caldari & Amarr)

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Special Ability: 25% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret rate of fire

Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 4% shield resistance per level OR 10% bonus to large Hybrid Turret optimal range per level
Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret falloff per level OR 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking per level

High 8

Medium 7

Low 5

http://i.imgur.com/eK70Ag8.jpg
Turk MacRumien
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-12-12 19:57:05 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Special Ability: 25% bonus to Large Projectile Turret rate of fire


Large Projectile?
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#3 - 2013-12-12 19:57:56 UTC
fixed
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#4 - 2013-12-12 20:19:22 UTC
We already have a Caldari/Amarr faction spaceship line. (Sanshas)

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#5 - 2013-12-12 20:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
We do? No way! We also have 2 faction Gal/Min, so always room for more I'd say. And it's just fun ideas.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#6 - 2013-12-12 20:32:33 UTC
are EOM shield tankers?

a caldari/amarr ship that doesn't shoot lasers or missiles would troll caldari/amarr RPers pretty hard. I like it.

Nix the shield resistance bonus.

with optimal and falloff bonuses, this thing plus null would work a lot like scorch megapulse battleships i think, except more awesome because blasters.

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#7 - 2013-12-12 21:44:15 UTC
I went with Clad/amarr to through people off, instead of Gal/Amarr. And I just LOVE to see a Amarr looking ship with hybrids and using shields haha
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#8 - 2013-12-12 21:56:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Batelle wrote:
are EOM shield tankers?

a caldari/amarr ship that doesn't shoot lasers or missiles would troll caldari/amarr RPers pretty hard. I like it.

Nix the shield resistance bonus.

with optimal and falloff bonuses, this thing plus null would work a lot like scorch megapulse battleships i think, except more awesome because blasters.


I'm not sure if you've ever done the "Gone Berserk" missions (especially Lv4 where the best-looking ships are found) but Equilibrium of Mankind are active shield tankers with railguns who fly black amarr hulls with blue accents. Given that Railguns are technically more Caldari than Gallente (as is shield tanking), Caldari/Amarr actually makes perfect sense and has been suggested before.

Maybe a bonus to shield boosting rather than a shield resist bonus.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2013-12-12 22:05:43 UTC
The other EOM topic from just days ago ... (I noticed that you used the same picture, so why not post in there?)

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#10 - 2013-12-12 22:35:18 UTC
When I have fought EoM for SoE they always had rails and their shields always seems better then their armor. Very cool looking ships too, a blue grey
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2013-12-13 02:48:15 UTC
I would really love to be able to fly the sexy sexy EoM ships and a hybrid shield tanker would fit perfectly.

Minor snag though is EoM has no agents.
Klingon Admiral
Carcinisation
#12 - 2013-12-13 02:52:50 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Minor snag though is EoM has no agents.


Neither agents nor beltrats nor anything else. And this is, if I remember correctly, the biggest reason why we can't spin EoM ships in or hangars yet.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-12-13 06:13:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
We do? No way! We also have 2 faction Gal/Min, so always room for more I'd say. And it's just fun ideas.

Yes, and one of them should be Cal/Min just to avoid overlap. Unfortunately, amount of tears skill requirements change would create stops me from even thinking of proposing it.

OT: is there a reason behind these ships except basically being tweaked caldari hybrid platforms with shiny looks?

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2013-12-13 06:29:02 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Batelle wrote:
are EOM shield tankers?

a caldari/amarr ship that doesn't shoot lasers or missiles would troll caldari/amarr RPers pretty hard. I like it.

Nix the shield resistance bonus.

with optimal and falloff bonuses, this thing plus null would work a lot like scorch megapulse battleships i think, except more awesome because blasters.


I'm not sure if you've ever done the "Gone Berserk" missions (especially Lv4 where the best-looking ships are found) but Equilibrium of Mankind are active shield tankers with railguns who fly black amarr hulls with blue accents. Given that Railguns are technically more Caldari than Gallente (as is shield tanking), Caldari/Amarr actually makes perfect sense and has been suggested before.

Maybe a bonus to shield boosting rather than a shield resist bonus.


I think I did one a few weeks ago, and as far as I could tell I was shooting untanked red crosses that may or may not have been shooting back.

If you want them to be specifically rail-gunny then that pretty much begs for optimal and tracking. I only mentioned blasters because having a dual range bonus with large null blasters would be pretty ridiculous. I still say lose the resistance bonus, although boost+tracking would still be pretty strong.

Although, judging from an NPC database, it seems a lot of their ships primarily use kinetic missiles. Maybe give them a split weapon system (5/5) with a kinetic-specific bonus (why don't any BS have kinetic bonuses???). LolLolLolLol

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Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-12-13 07:33:26 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:


Special Ability: 25% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret rate of fire

Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 4% shield resistance per level OR 10% bonus to large Hybrid Turret optimal range per level
Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret falloff per level OR 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking per level

High 8

Medium 7

Low 5

http://i.imgur.com/eK70Ag8.jpg


That's weird, I could've sworn you wrote Caldari/Amarr but that's only Caldari... Straight

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#16 - 2013-12-13 15:31:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
I already did a forum on Cald/Min faction ships.


Might want to look at a Nightmare bonuses, and tell me what the Caldari bonus does haha. Pretty sure it gives a Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Large Energy Turret damage per level. So my bonuses for the EoM are pretty sound I'd say.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#17 - 2013-12-13 15:47:22 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
We already have a Caldari/Amarr faction spaceship line. (Sanshas)


and so?
we also have 2 faction that use minmatar/gallente combo.
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-12-13 15:51:17 UTC
Just wanted to throw this out there, we don't have 2x Gal/Min. Serpentis is Gal/Min, and Angels are Min/Gal. It's a giant technicality, but it could be compared, sort of, to the difference between Per/Will and Will/Per. From the precedent CCP set with Serpentis and Angels, I don't see a reason why Sansha being Amarr/Caldari would rule out EoM being Caldari/Amarr.

All that said, EoM look cool when I see them, but I'm fairly indifferent to getting an EoM ship of my own.

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#19 - 2013-12-13 16:03:27 UTC

Quote:

Just wanted to throw this out there, we don't have 2x Gal/Min. Serpentis is Gal/Min, and Angels are Min/Gal. It's a giant technicality, but it could be compared, sort of, to the difference between Per/Will and Will/Per. From the precedent CCP set with Serpentis and Angels, I don't see a reason why Sansha being Amarr/Caldari would rule out EoM being Caldari/Amarr.

All that said, EoM look cool when I see them, but I'm fairly indifferent to getting an EoM ship of my own.




First off you are wrong Serentis isn't one, it's Guardian Angels. And we do have 2 Gal/Min, just because they are both from Angel doesn't mean we don't have 2. The Guadian Angel and Angel Cartel are VERY different ships, but are both Min/gal.

I would like to fly a EoM ship but CCP would have to bring in agents and such for them. And We'd also need to look forward to another Amarr/Min, Gal/Cald faction ships too. Only one I know CCP NEEDS to make is a CaldMin one to go with the new SoE Amarr/Gal. I have already did a forum on that too haha
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-12-13 16:06:17 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

First off you are wrong Serentis isn't one, it's Guardian Angels. And we do have 2 Gal/Min, just because they are both from Angel doesn't mean we don't have 2. The Guadian Angel and Angel Cartel are VERY different ships, but are both Min/gal.

Funny, seems that the Guardian Angels corporation offers Machariels and Cynabals just like every other Angel LP store.
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