EVE New Citizens Q&A

I really doubt anybody will spend their time negotiating with a third party about your ransom, while giving you more time to call for backup and risk losing both the ransom and the kill.

There are plenty people who are will to do the work but few with the reputation. For example I always wanted to work as a middleman but what does anyone know about me. And why would they trust me?

Some of the more respectable Pirate Corps have strict rules about their members having to honor offered ransoms which you would likely find on their homepages. I would assume in such a case the pirate will point out that he is bound to honor the ransom (though that doesn´t necessarily mean he will offer a ransom in the first place). Also there is the occasional attempt to make a public list of pirates that honor ransoms here on the forum.

Not much but every little bit helps, I guess. Ultimately, in most cases you will probably have to rely on your guts if a pirate should be trusted.
Someone named N00bKillar or similar probably should not...

Completely agree with this.

While im sure there are people who will honor ransoms, the majority still don't.
Sadly there is no way to "enforce" someone to honor ransoms, and of course with so many claiming they honor it and then don't, no one is really willing to give the "good guys" a chance since experience and knowledge about how people in general don't honor it makes many feel its not worth the risk.

If you can't trust a face like that, who you can trust?

It stands for Secure Credit Unilateral Management.

There, that should check out.

Or option 3:

Eve has hundreds of thousands of players and he almost never meets someone who has heard of him before.

I was discussing this with one of EVE's better known third parties recently, and they had a couple of ideas for how it could be done. It's really only worth doing for very high end ships like the most valuable 10% of incursion ships, dreads and titans. (Other ships tend to be too hard to render helpless).

1) Pirate pays 2b into a collateral fund (deposited with a third party). This remains owned by the pirate.
2) Pirate meets a client and enters into negotiations
3) Client creates a contract to the pirate (so there is a clear paper trail), contracting the agreed ransom fee plus some pointless item so the contract interface is happy (e.g. client contracts 1300m ISK plus one Tritanium in exchange for their Dreadnought being released)
4) If the client is unhappy with services rendered, they approach the third party and provide evidence, in the form of their lossmail. Third party refunds the ransom if appropriate, taking it from the collateral fund. The third party charges a fee for this investigation, paid by the at-fault party (so the pirate if they reneged upon the ransom, and the client if they falsely accused the pirate of doing so).

being a pirate, most pirate corps live by pirate creed. Meaning, if they ask for randsome, they will honor it and you'll be safe to get out of there. A lot of pirate corps will actually kick members from Corp for not holding to those rules. Don't seek a middleman, this prolongs the ordeal and runs the risk of the pirates playing pod soccer

but if a pirate asks you for randsome, typically it will be honored. Yes, there are bad apples out there who may dishonor, but lowsec/nullsec isn't without risk. Those pirates give us good and hard working pirates a bad name.

Eve is meant to be fun, and a lot of Pirates are in that line of work because it’s a fun aspect of the game and do have some moral principle. There are times I will give a new player a hard and rough time eventually blowing up their 500,000 ISK frigate but then giving them 10 Mil Isk as a gift. So, like I said, there are rotten Pirates and there are good pirates, and most will honor a randsome.

ohhhh shooosh!!! I'm an engineer not an english professor