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DownTwisTeD
Doomheim
#61 - 2011-09-10 02:23:25 UTC
I got some weard people following me around to yo know, i dont know why!

like get a job yo know or somthing! huh? Twisted
Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
#62 - 2011-09-10 02:25:04 UTC
I read the first page but not the rest but I saw someone mentioning biomassing so why don't you just 1. transfer all your stuff to a new character, 2. biomass all the old toons, 3. enjoy Eve..
Butters McRough
#63 - 2011-09-10 02:26:16 UTC
so, wait he's autistic and he wrote a keylogging program? I'm not out here to try and bash you or your kid, but honestly i find that a little strange.
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#64 - 2011-09-10 02:27:00 UTC
Demon Azrakel wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
Demon Azrakel wrote:
I will bite...

1. Set email to an email your son has no access to from a computer he has no access to (and is not related to any other email). Recover password will not help him.
2. Change password online from that other computer.
3.a. Control your son, dammit. Seriously, if he pursues this after being told explicitly not to, some form of discipline should occur. Though at this point, I cannot see how his "amazing wizardlike computer skillz" would help him access.
3.b. (Alternative to 3.a.) Let him deal with it, regardless of his condition, coddling will hurt him in the long run.

Note: Do not expect sympathy from us on how you, your son, or anyone is treated ingame as long as RL threats stay out it. This is EVE.

EDIT: Supervised environment? That sounds like keeping him off of EVE would be rather easy (seriously, see EVE up, flip switch on computer)


Thank you, I have done most of that. Its the real life issue of this guy hopping from game to game to "hunt me down" and the way my son perceives (these were the exact words in the eve mail he read) "so I can F***ING KILL YOU".
My "knee jerk" reaction was to get pissed and freak out. (Typical parental reaction when their child is affected negatively) One of the reasons I let him play EVE is the "real" factor. He actually started to understand the gravity of choices through the consequences (both positive and negative) of them.
I added to the petition and asked CCP about some options that would not destroy months of work that he and I had together (something that very rarely happens with an autistic kid).
I could have handled this much differently. I owe many of you a great deal of gratitude for giving me perspective.


If someone ever tells me they will come from game to game, I say let them try. If I was worried, though, I would use a different username (Well, ingame name) and they would never find me unless I said,"Wait, I remember you, you were planning on making my gaming experience a living hell, so here I am." Also, the games in which you can repeatedly mess with people and hound them other than EVE are few and far between, so that part is kinda a non-issue.

Also, RL and "in another game" are separate in most of our minds. In other words, it may have been a "non-EVE" threat, but it was not a "RL" threat.

Personally, I would have rather had this angry guy be angry at Paul Clavet or any other proper "greifer". Hell, even I, along with what may very well be a majority of the players in the game, would enjoy the attention this other player is sending your son's way. I would certainly engage in some light smacktalk and throw out a few "internet spaceships is srs bsns" comments, but the time when that would have worked is past for you.


He actually did find me in one game and tried to PVP me. I did not understand his (what seemed to me at the time) odd ramblings about me stealing from him until the mail that Jon read here. I am a creature of habit; I have used this toon name in nearly every game I have ever played... it is always my main.
All of you are very right; I reacted poorly. I am human... that is something I can not change...
I am not an unreasonable person; I am very protective of my son though.
AnzacPaul
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2011-09-10 02:29:45 UTC
Lol if I had a million isk for everytime someone said they were going to "insert random threat here" whilst I lived in Rancer, I could probably afford a new fitted battleship Smile
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#66 - 2011-09-10 02:30:30 UTC
Butters McRough wrote:
so, wait he's autistic and he wrote a keylogging program? I'm not out here to try and bash you or your kid, but honestly i find that a little strange.

Autism isn't an intelligence disorder. In most cases autistic children are INCREDIBLY talented and intelligent. Autism is more of a social skills disorder... they live in their own unique world. So no, its not strange at all.
Butters McRough
#67 - 2011-09-10 02:34:34 UTC
my apologies, i only have society's basic knowledge of what an average person thinks autism is. i didnt go to school for 4 years and learn this stuff.
Tengger
Doomheim
#68 - 2011-09-10 02:40:08 UTC
Prelude to what I am going to say.
Quote:
Now somewhere out there is a kid who does what he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants and how dangerous is he going to be to someone else someday?


Reason for what I am going to say.
Quote:
Autism isn't an intelligence disorder. In most cases autistic children are INCREDIBLY talented and intelligent. Autism is more of a social skills disorder... they live in their own unique world. So no, its not strange at all.


What I am going to say.

Just say NO.

EVERY kid, regardless of dysfunction knows this word if it's used often enough and with intent.

This is an extremely simple solution to an extremely complex problem.

wtf you lookin' at? waddya expect, me naked in ascii?
Vekkuza
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#69 - 2011-09-10 02:56:05 UTC
Sounds to me like the kid controls your life! Autism is just a excuse for someone who can't control their kid. And if he hacks or will then he has no reason to play anything. Stick to Counter Strike.
Tengger
Doomheim
#70 - 2011-09-10 02:58:39 UTC
Quote:
Autism is just a excuse for someone who can't control their kid.


Before you get nailed, I think you mean ADD. Autism is a genetic disability, not an environmental one.

wtf you lookin' at? waddya expect, me naked in ascii?
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#71 - 2011-09-10 02:59:59 UTC
You clearly have no children Vekk. Maybe you should be around some human beings with Autism before you say something that incredibly stupid.
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#72 - 2011-09-10 03:04:31 UTC
Tengger wrote:
Prelude to what I am going to say.
Quote:
Now somewhere out there is a kid who does what he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants and how dangerous is he going to be to someone else someday?


Reason for what I am going to say.
Quote:
Autism isn't an intelligence disorder. In most cases autistic children are INCREDIBLY talented and intelligent. Autism is more of a social skills disorder... they live in their own unique world. So no, its not strange at all.


What I am going to say.

Just say NO.

EVERY kid, regardless of dysfunction knows this word if it's used often enough and with intent.

This is an extremely simple solution to an extremely complex problem.

Again, many of you are very right. I am at odds with "just saying no" because EVE is something he "connects" with, with me. I am talking to CCP about some "options" that would not be as drastic as the completely cutting him off.
Vekkuza
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#73 - 2011-09-10 03:07:32 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
You clearly have no children Vekk. Maybe you should be around some human beings with Autism before you say something that incredibly stupid.

I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.
Maybe you shouldn't sit here in forums asking stupid questions. Try making it so he can't use the computer, hack or not. Duh.
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#74 - 2011-09-10 03:09:49 UTC
Vekkuza wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
You clearly have no children Vekk. Maybe you should be around some human beings with Autism before you say something that incredibly stupid.

I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.
Maybe you shouldn't sit here in forums asking stupid questions. Try making it so he can't use the computer, hack or not. Duh.

Vekk, I already have made sure he con not log into EVE.
Vekkuza
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#75 - 2011-09-10 03:11:03 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Vekkuza wrote:
Dichotomi wrote:
You clearly have no children Vekk. Maybe you should be around some human beings with Autism before you say something that incredibly stupid.

I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.
Maybe you shouldn't sit here in forums asking stupid questions. Try making it so he can't use the computer, hack or not. Duh.

Vekk, I already have made sure he con not log into EVE.

Then you have no problem.
/close
Tengger
Doomheim
#76 - 2011-09-10 03:13:36 UTC
Quote:
I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.


Now what you are saying makes sense. You did say they autism is "an excuse" for not controlling your kid. I think you meant poor parenting is a result of having a naughty autistic kid. (or any kid for that matter)

wtf you lookin' at? waddya expect, me naked in ascii?
Vekkuza
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#77 - 2011-09-10 03:16:25 UTC
Tengger wrote:
Quote:
I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.


Now what you are saying makes sense. You did say they autism is "an excuse" for not controlling your kid. I think you meant poor parenting is a result of having a naughty autistic kid. (or any kid for that matter)

Exactly what I'm saying. Because my mothers friend has an autistic kid and he is completely insane, but I know that is because all she does is dump him off on others to take care of.
Dichotomi
Reverent Eclipse
#78 - 2011-09-10 03:21:04 UTC
Tengger wrote:
Quote:
I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.


Now what you are saying makes sense. You did say they autism is "an excuse" for not controlling your kid. I think you meant poor parenting is a result of having a naughty autistic kid. (or any kid for that matter)

I am not saying my child has done anything "wrong" in this situation. I am saying he has done things in the past that would cause me alarm about what he *MIGHT* do should he want to log into EVE. I do not sit ans stare at him 24/7. He has to eat and things like that often require me to go into a different room than he is (cooking and all that,,, LOL).
What I am trying to say in this post is that that I was upset and that my child should not have to deal with a disgruntled nerdrage.
I am waiting on a reply from CCP, as well as I have taken numerous steps to prevent him from logging on until I have an answer to some questions I asked of CCP.
Vekkuza
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#79 - 2011-09-10 03:26:12 UTC
Dichotomi wrote:
Tengger wrote:
Quote:
I am around children. And one is Austisic, but the parent is still able to control them.


Now what you are saying makes sense. You did say they autism is "an excuse" for not controlling your kid. I think you meant poor parenting is a result of having a naughty autistic kid. (or any kid for that matter)

I am not saying my child has done anything "wrong" in this situation. I am saying he has done things in the past that would cause me alarm about what he *MIGHT* do should he want to log into EVE. I do not sit ans stare at him 24/7. He has to eat and things like that often require me to go into a different room than he is (cooking and all that,,, LOL).
What I am trying to say in this post is that that I was upset and that my child should not have to deal with a disgruntled nerdrage.
I am waiting on a reply from CCP, as well as I have taken numerous steps to prevent him from logging on until I have an answer to some questions I asked of CCP.

I don't think you are realising you are on the internet. It's all nerdrage, esp on EVE. And the fact he "might do something wrong on EVE" is another reason why I find it that you should've made it so he couldn't get on the computer at all. Not like he could do something that bad anyways I'm sure.
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
#80 - 2011-09-10 03:28:01 UTC
Honnestly the OP makes me sick. You remind me of this begger couple harassing me during my luch today.

You could perfectly well have made this post without pulling sympathic standings due to:

* Single Parent
* Hard life for Gay peopl
* Au#¤%# wtf kid
* Cancer


So all in all your much the same as these beggars carrying a fat kid asking for hard cash.

There should be some rulez (CCP!) agains posting personal information like this on the Eve forum.



Oh yeah since I want you to stop whining, I'll do you a favor OP: CANCEL YOUR INTERNET SUBSCRIPTION and let your rainman kid try to haxorz his way through that.