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[Rubicon 1.1] Sisters of EVE Battleship

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Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1361 - 2013-12-11 15:54:59 UTC
Sorry the cost is way to high, who here thinks they want to use RR on a non cloaky or special in anyways 1 billion - 2 billion isk ship?.... wait? carrier you said?... oh... right... nvm

Needs something more special then RR..... thats just silly if it only has 20 km range
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1362 - 2013-12-11 16:01:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Spugg Galdon wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
^ Not true at all. No faction ship is like a marauder but whatever...

If you want black ops capabilities, why don't you train for a black ops ship?



You would still require the support skills to use the jump drive and portal. The only difference being that you would be paying an extra billion to use this without having to train BLOPs ship skill. Seems fair to me.



I just don't see the point in giving the nestor the main role of an existing T2 ship and as i said earlier, wormhole and HS users would be unable to take advantage of this bonus.

On the other hand, giving the nestor a covert cloak gives it the ability to jump through a covert cyno and enable the ship to fill a much needed cloaky logi role, while not rendering Black ops obsolete.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1363 - 2013-12-11 16:18:15 UTC
Am I missing the joke here? Who would bother flying this instead of a Logi for a fraction of the price?
Rio Bravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1364 - 2013-12-11 16:28:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Rio Bravo
Xython wrote:
Am I missing the joke here? Who would bother flying this instead of a Logi for a fraction of the price?


Yeah I hear you. Might be why it needs Jump Drive. At least it would justify the cost, and skills would be needed to pilot it right.
I don't think it should be a true black ops though...I get it would be nice to portal in SOE frigs and cruisers, but would be used on the battle field too. Not just for exploration. Wouldnt impact JF's too much I dont think. I don't know what to tell you about Worm Holes...
It's suited to ghost sites because of its low mass, fastest BS in the game probably, might be about 1000m/sec?

“You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. I dig.”  - Clint Eastwood, misquote.

Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1365 - 2013-12-11 16:37:09 UTC
Xython wrote:
Am I missing the joke here? Who would bother flying this instead of a Logi for a fraction of the price?



Right now there is absolutely no reason.

That is my major gripe with the ship.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#1366 - 2013-12-11 16:47:59 UTC
i like how you all fantasize about some cool or not features, and CCP is just doing a ship and won't change their mind, like with marauders. This proposal is final and all your discussion ideas will not be taken into consideration anyway Blink
Rio Bravo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1367 - 2013-12-11 16:49:22 UTC
nahjustwarpin wrote:
i like how you all fantasize about some cool or not features, and CCP is just doing a ship and won't change their mind, like with marauders. This proposal is final and all your discussion ideas will not be taken into consideration anyway Blink


CCP is facilitating pre-production feed back. It's supposed to make you feel empowered.

“You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. I dig.”  - Clint Eastwood, misquote.

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1368 - 2013-12-11 17:23:52 UTC
I like the current Nestor, but this would make it reasonable to fly or buy it-

Nestor

Amarr Battleship bonus:
4% bonus to armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship bonus:
12.5% bonus to drone HP and damage per level

Role bonuses

50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% bonus to drone velocity, tracking and optimal range
100% bonus to repair amount of armor repair drones
450% bonus to cloaked velocity
50% increase to scan strength of probes
+15 virus strength to analyzers
+2 Warp Core strength

Slots: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bay/bandwidth): 525m3/125mBit/sec
Cargo Capacity: 900m3
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 85km / 96 / 7

Remember, this ship is worth more than a carrier- this would be fine for it, and I'd love it.

But I still love the Nestor no matter what- it's a cool looking ship Cool
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#1369 - 2013-12-11 17:34:26 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I like the current Nestor, but this would make it reasonable to fly or buy it-

Nestor

Amarr Battleship bonus:
4% bonus to armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship bonus:
12.5% bonus to drone HP and damage per level

Role bonuses

50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% bonus to drone velocity, tracking and optimal range
100% bonus to repair amount of armor repair drones
450% bonus to cloaked velocity
50% increase to scan strength of probes
+15 virus strength to analyzers
+2 Warp Core strength

Slots: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bay/bandwidth): 525m3/125mBit/sec
Cargo Capacity: 900m3
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 85km / 96 / 7

Remember, this ship is worth more than a carrier- this would be fine for it, and I'd love it.

But I still love the Nestor no matter what- it's a cool looking ship Cool


pay to win much
Spugg Galdon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1370 - 2013-12-11 17:39:38 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I like the current Nestor, but this would make it reasonable to fly or buy it-

Nestor

Amarr Battleship bonus:
4% bonus to armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship bonus:
12.5% bonus to drone HP and damage per level

Role bonuses

50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% bonus to drone velocity, tracking and optimal range
100% bonus to repair amount of armor repair drones
450% bonus to cloaked velocity
50% increase to scan strength of probes
+15 virus strength to analyzers
+2 Warp Core strength

Slots: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bay/bandwidth): 525m3/125mBit/sec
Cargo Capacity: 900m3
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 85km / 96 / 7

Remember, this ship is worth more than a carrier- this would be fine for it, and I'd love it.

But I still love the Nestor no matter what- it's a cool looking ship Cool



Crikey! Do you want fries with that too?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1371 - 2013-12-11 17:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
nahjustwarpin wrote:
pay to win much

You don't make any sense Lol

Pay-to-win is paying IRL to have better items in game: EVE doesn't have that, and this definitely isn't "Pay-to-win".

I think you fail to grasp what that means.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1372 - 2013-12-11 17:46:07 UTC
Spugg Galdon wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I like the current Nestor, but this would make it reasonable to fly or buy it-

Nestor

Amarr Battleship bonus:
4% bonus to armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship bonus:
12.5% bonus to drone HP and damage per level

Role bonuses

50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% bonus to drone velocity, tracking and optimal range
100% bonus to repair amount of armor repair drones
450% bonus to cloaked velocity
50% increase to scan strength of probes
+15 virus strength to analyzers
+2 Warp Core strength

Slots: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bay/bandwidth): 525m3/125mBit/sec
Cargo Capacity: 900m3
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 85km / 96 / 7

Remember, this ship is worth more than a carrier- this would be fine for it, and I'd love it.

But I still love the Nestor no matter what- it's a cool looking ship Cool



Crikey! Do you want fries with that too?

Nah, I'm full! But a strip club would be perfect for the ship!

Jokes aside, though, this ship will cost more than a carrier- it'll stay high unless they give it more ways onto the market, but if they don't this'll stay at at least 1.5 bil. I think something that expensive deserves to have a few luxuries.

But really, this isn't that OP: the scan strength and virus strength bonuses are staying no matter what, so that's fine (I just increased VS), the core strength makes sense in place of cov ops, and the cloaked velocity is really useful, making it more viable for exploration.

Maybe it doesn't need 12.5% damage/hp bonus to drones (maybe keep it at 10) but this is my idea, so I'm putting it out there.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#1373 - 2013-12-11 17:50:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
stuff


This guy again...

I don't think you understand to concept of ballance. Perhaps you could just stop taking up half a page with your suggestions from now on and instead, use a a couple lines to post ways in which you would like this ship to be OP.

The last thing EvE needs is another dps platform.

Ps. And actually, EvE does have a form of pay no win using PLEX.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1374 - 2013-12-11 17:58:15 UTC
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
stuff


This guy again...

I don't think you understand to concept of ballance. Perhaps you could just stop taking up half a page with your suggestions from now on and instead, use a a couple lines to post ways in which you would like this ship to be OP.

The last thing EvE needs is another dps platform.

Ps. And actually, EvE does have a form of pay no win using PLEX.

Well maybe you should take into consideration that this is the "Features and Ideas" section of the forums.

I have ideas, so I post them. I don't necessarily think they'll ever change anything, and I seriously doubt I'd be listened to by CCP, but I post what I think.

Also, I know what you're saying with PLEX, but the way the other guy said it was like I mean to make the ship my own and destroy everyone else. It's an expensive ship and I had an idea or two, sheesh Big smile
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#1375 - 2013-12-11 18:54:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
Everyone is entitled to bad ideas I guess Blink I'm just living in the vain hope that CCP are going to listen to the reasonable ideas...
Disciple Cax
Ethereal Morality
The Initiative.
#1376 - 2013-12-11 18:57:22 UTC
Quote:
Everyone is entitled to bad ideas I guess Blink I guess I'm just living in the vain hope that CCP are going to listen to the reasonable ideas...


I wouldn't listen to you if that was your attitude towards me.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#1377 - 2013-12-11 18:58:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
CCP desperately needs to have a New Player Training Session on the definition of "Pay to Win".

Virtually nobody in Features & Ideas seems to have any concept of what the term actually means.

For godsakes, go play some free-to-play games for a few months and then come back when you've been properly educated.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#1378 - 2013-12-11 19:04:05 UTC
Disciple Cax wrote:
Quote:
Everyone is entitled to bad ideas I guess Blink I guess I'm just living in the vain hope that CCP are going to listen to the reasonable ideas...


I wouldn't listen to you if that was your attitude towards me.


That's probably because you're petty and small-minded.

I'm here to give feedback and argue my point. If CCP don't want to listen because I'm not being all sweetness and sunshine, that's there problem!
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#1379 - 2013-12-11 19:14:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Seven role bonuses is a bit much (it's actually completely ridiculous, regardless of what the bonuses are) and you're entitled to your opinion, but you being a festering, pustule-ridden ******* about it is not conducive to constructive discussion.

HTFU and play nice or GTFO the pool. Thanks.

EDIT: And while you're at it, learn what "Pay to Win" means.
Mournful Conciousness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1380 - 2013-12-11 19:18:26 UTC
If you two don't get a room for your love games soon I reckon one of the moderators will remove your posts (and this one Big smile)

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