EVE General Discussion

without eve there would be no ccp.
without the expansions there would be no eve.
without the customers there would be no ccp.

so while ccp want to survive they have to patch and expand eve.

if that farmer you are on about had no customers, how would he survive? sell off his land and go do something else?

The thing you aren't comprehending is that incentives are not mandatory for any company. An incentive to stay is an option companies use to maintain customers. They are not, however, required by law or god to give you incentives. While they want to make MORE money, they don't have to give you bonus material. You've paid for their product already.

They don't have to give you anything else.

I hope they update the game. There haven't been any significant changes in like 2 years lol

Why dont you actually wait and see what they mean by resource distribution, they could be referring to moon goo for all you know.

Yes ABC removal has been discussed but at no point has CCP said 'we 100% confirm wormholes will lose ABC ores'


CCP for the love of all things holy get this right.

INCORRECT - Eve always advertised two free expansions a year. Just last year when they couldn't deliver due to working on their more important 'new games' did they renege on that.

Something everybody should realize here is that we shouldn't get all excited until we hear it from CCP themselves what's going to be in the winter expansion instead of from a very general article. As someone said earlier, the article doesn't make a good distinction between what's slotted for the expansion, and 'the Future'.

Personally, I'd be happy with the new backgrounds, effects, and super cap balances for the expansion.

Free implies not paid for, correct?

Lol - how much could CCP have milked from the goose revenue wise if premium had to be paid to access PI and Incursions? Just asking?

tl;dr for article: **** yes

Rebalancing all ships should worry everyone. As the vast majority are really balanced, its just the tactics that folks use. The jump from level 1 to level 3 in carriers is immense though and that's largely due to Seleene who helped buff them a few years ago when he worked for CCP.

Anyone holding space should worry about any tweaks to sov etc. CCP can nullify years of work with just the stroke of a pen. If they want to mix things up what they need are new ships and modules. Not tweaks to this and that. We've been fighting in the same ships for 2 years, is it any wonder things have become predictable.

Some ship ideas;

Tech 1 Tier 3 Battlecruiser for each race

Tech 1 Tier 4 Battle ship for each race (make the Amarr, Minmatar, and Gallente ones EW Battleships for appropriate type EW)

Heavy Battlecruiser (Take model of Tech 1 Tier 2 Battlecruiser, reskin, these can mount 1-2 capital weapons, have 4 instead of 8 high slots, bonus to fitting capital weapons and capital weapon damage, new t2 class)

Heavy Stealth Bomber (Destroyer scale bomber, main difference is it can fit another bomb launcher making 2 launchers possible per bomber, probably another t2 class requiring level 5 in covert ops)

Minelayer (tech 2 tier 3 transport, modified blockade runner, specialized hold to carry minefields (see below)

Minesweeper (tech 1 tier 3 destroyer, can fit a mod that removes minefields by reducing minefield duration)

EW Dreadnought (tech 1 tier 2 Dreadnought, fits capital EW mods by race that can affect Supercarriers and Titans)

Drone Interdictor (tech 2 tier 2 Interdictor, bubble deals damage to drones/fighters/fighter bombers, does not stop warp)

Heavy Drone Interdictor (tech 2 tier 2 Heavy Interdictor, again bubble damages drones/fighters/fighter bombers)

Subspace Interdictor (tech 2 tier 3 Interdictor, bubble acts as a web effect, subspace bubble and warp bubbles cannot coexist in same space, whichever is launched first takes precedence)

Heavy Subspace Interdictor (tech 2 tier 3 Heavy Interdictor, as the Subspace Interdictor just heavier module)


Some ammo ideas:

Decloaker Bomb (30km radius, any cloaked ship within its area of effect has its cloaking device turned off. Note the pilot can just turn it back on if he's active after the module cooldown time.)

Some Deployable Ideas:

Decloaker Field (Like the bomb above it works like mobile warp disruptors except it decloaks the enemy ship in the bubble rather than stopping warp.)

Subspace Disruption Field (Like Warp Disrupt Bubble except has web effect, the subspace and warp bubbles cannot exist in the same area of space....no overlapping, have to be anchored at least 5km from the edge of each others fields.)

Minefield (Works like a Warp Disrupt bubble except instead of stopping warp deals damage to all in its bubble (t2 ones have fof recognition attacking only enemies in the field), there is a time limit after anchoring that the field will work......minimum I'd suggest is 8 hours, the minesweeper above reduces duration by half an hour per cycle of its minesweeper, with a cycle time probably of around 30 seconds to a minute)

Some New Sovereignty Ideas:

Outpost Guns (These are anchorable outside the Outpost in a system, 1 per sovereignty level held, obviously each race has its own type, you must anchor the same racial type as the Outpost is. Does require an additional level 2 sovereignty plug in for ihub)

Gate Guns (No more than 2 gate guns per gate, guns installed must match gate type, again another sovereignty plug in probably a level 4 sov plug in for the ihub)

Ice Accumulater (works like the ore upgrades. It is a level 2 or 3 industry plug in for the ihub, belt will match gate types in system....for example if its a gallente gate then you'll get blue ice, etc; a higher level plug in might get a belt with special ice types but obviously would require a higher industry level)

Patrol Base ( It creates another destroyable base at a planet other than where the outpost is. This is a patrol base where NPC controlled ships help patrol your gates (and only gates). There is a catch though, you have to supply the NPC patrolmen with ships, if they lose their ships they need new ships. They also can't fit all those fancy gizmos you have, so basically its just t1 fitted t1 ships cruiser and lower for Patrol Base 1 (level 3 sov updgrade), battlecruiser and lower for Patrol Base II (level 4 sov upgrade), and battleship and lower for Patrol Base III (level 5 sov upgrade). The patrol base is vulnerable to attack and roughly has the same hitpoints etc as a small tower pos. If it is destroyed you have to replace it and any ships that were in it before the patrols resume. A patrol base can only support 10 ships at a time. If patrol base is attacked all patrol ships will move to defend the patrol base to the best of their ability, however you better help them or they'll die fast.

General Changes to 0.0:

Any system with fewer than 6 static belts is brought up to 6 belts.
The required amount to both get and maintain industry index is made one quarter what it is today to entice more miners to 0.0.
The amount of minisites from sov upgrades is doubled. (excluding wormholes which aren't minisites just saying that for clarity).
Any constellation that does not have 1 ice belt is given an ice belt in a random system (if constellation has system with less than 6 static belts as above put the ice belt in it to help get it to 6)